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[–] Maggoty -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (24 children)

No.

If you must vote and vote for the "correct" party then you don't have a democracy. Either we exercised our democratic responsibilities this year or we lost our democracy a decade ago and we're just now finding out about it.

Either way, lesser evil voting is not a democratic ideal.

[–] WrenFeathers 6 points 16 hours ago (11 children)

lesser evil voting is not a democratic ideal.

Neither is staying home and not voting at all.

[–] Maggoty -2 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

If you can't abstain then you don't have a democracy. (Yes Australia i'm looking at you) You have a system of coerced consent where the political parties wouldn't even know how to change, but that's okay because there's no incentive to change in such a system either.

It's literally the fastest way to get Party AB instead of Party A and Party B.

[–] TrickDacy 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Great you started with the conclusion that not voting is fine and then tried to find a way to justify it. You failed.

[–] Maggoty -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not going to write a 20 page paper for you. This is what it is. If people have to vote then the sitting parties have no reason to respond to voters.

[–] TrickDacy 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What the hell are you talking about? Your solution to making democracy work seems to be telling people to stay home on election day. Fucking brilliant

[–] Maggoty -4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No. The people can certainly go vote if they want. They can also stay home if they want.

[–] TrickDacy 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You prefer the latter, or I wouldn't see you defending that shit in every fucking thread.

[–] Maggoty -4 points 7 hours ago

I prefer actual democracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Then people could abstain by writing in someone else. Not voting is a serious problem.

[–] Maggoty -1 points 9 hours ago

Write ins aren't actually a free for all in most states. You have to qualify with signatures for the state to bother counting them. So no, not really.

[–] WrenFeathers 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Look up what “ideal” means, and note that it doesn’t mean “only option.”

You specifically chose the word. I am responding to that. And to that end: Not participating in an election is NOT an ideal way to have a democracy. In fact- it flies is the face of it.

[–] Maggoty -3 points 9 hours ago

So in political philosophy ideals are only related to the common definition. This wiki page gives a good use of the philosophical definition in action.

I probably should have used a different word on Lemmy though.

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