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It’s only a few months away, but Marvel isn’t done with their endless tinkering on “Captain America: Brave New World.”

Yes, scooper Daniel Richtman (via CBM) is reporting that a third round of test screenings for the film recently took place, and once again the reaction wasn’t what Marvel had hoped for. More changes are being done on the film.

It’s not clear how extensive this new additional photography is, and whether “director” Julius Onah is present, but there’s gotta be an end to all of this, right? The film gets released a little over two months from now.

Recently, a rep close to the ‘Brave New World’ production wrote to me, and described the additional photography as “standard in the business, and specially on large films requiring pick up.”

This is the third round of reshoots on ‘Brave New World.’ Earlier in the year, Marvel got to see a rough cut of the film, but felt the action scenes “were not big or satisfying enough.” A poorly rated test-screening didn’t help. Word was that three major action sequences were being reshot from scratch.

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[–] TOModera 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Looked up the director, and can't say I have seen anything beyond Cloverfield Paradox, which didn't wow me. So maybe hiring someone who didn't really do any work for 4 years didn't make an interesting movie? This whole project seems like someone hated Falcon and Winter Soldier and vowed to make it so terrible that no one will ever watch it again.

It seemed like an easy bunt of a movie: Make a 90s political thriller (like they did with Winter Soldier) and call it a day. Yet here we are, a lackluster release. Just scrap it for taxes.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

One of the problems Disney has is that they want total control over their movies so they only hire directors who will churn out product and not push back.

Those kind of directors seldom make good movies.

[–] spankmonkey 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They still hire some solid directors and then end up with a movie where the best parts are the director's vision and the worst parts are those that he execs stuffed in, like most movies.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's kind of what I'm saying. Any director working for them has to be OK with the studio taking their movie and fucking around with it, they don't get to kick up a fuss.

That automatically excludes a whole bunch of really talented directors who actually might make something worth watching if the studio wasn't so meddlesome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Which all so sad since the movie that started it all was completely left alone and up to the director.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

so they only hire directors who will churn out product and not push back.

Taiki Waititi? Sam Raimi? James Gunn?

I mean I get what you're going for, but I would say that they've given the reign to some directors who are definitely allowed a little bit of freedom (in Waititi's case probably too much), and whose films outside of Disney are generally well regarded and are not considered directors who "churn out product."

As David Cross proved with the Alvin and the Chipmunks movie after making fun of Patton Oswalt for being in Ratatouille: everybody needs a big paycheck once in a while.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Taiki Waititi? Sam Raimi? James Gunn?

They get more slack. But you can practically see the moment the Disney executive walks into the room, in Dr Strange 2, and starts making decisions over Raimi's head.

Waititi figured out how to go with the flow and still churn good stuff in Love and Thunder. But so much of what he did was a deliberate subversion of Disney tropes, it's like he hoodwinked the producers.

On the flip side, his series "Reservation Dogs" feels like something Disney would have put out thirty years ago, but has completely forgotten how to do anymore.

And because I'm in the mood to fight, I'm going to say Guardians (particularly 3) is highly overrated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Big ups for Reservation Dogs, agreed. I actually also agree about the Guardians movies being overrated, but they're still fun little romps. Gunn's most subversive days are long past.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, I absolutely do not begrudge anyone getting a paycheck, we all need to eat.

I don't think any of the directors you mentioned would push back against studio interference though. There are directors who will trade control for a paycheck and there are ones who won't. The ones who won't often make more interesting movies.

[–] Cort 2 points 3 weeks ago

in Waititi's case probably too much

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Looked up the director, and can’t say I have seen anything beyond Cloverfield Paradox

That's because there's only one other film since. He might have been working on thus since, I suppose, but what I don't get is how anyone saw the mediocre Cloverfield Paradox and thought "that's our guy!" However, I suppose that's why they call him the "director" in the article as he's just the frontman.