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World War III has officially begun, Ukraine’s ex-top general says (www.politico.eu)

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"Because in 2024, Ukraine is no longer facing Russia. Soldiers from North Korea are standing in front of Ukraine. Let's be honest. Already in Ukraine, the Iranian 'Shahedis' are killing civilians absolutely openly, without any shame," said Zaluzhny, adding that North Korean and Chinese weapons are flying into Ukraine. Zaluzhny urged Ukraine's allies to draw the right conclusions. "It is still possible to stop it here, on the territory of Ukraine. But for some reason our partners do not want to understand this. It is obvious that Ukraine already has too many enemies. Ukraine will survive with technology, but it is not clear whether it can win this battle alone," he said.

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[+] [email protected] -8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

De-escalation is highly effective in resolving conflicts.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Putin should just withdraw his troops to the internationally recognized borders as of 2014 then. That would de-escalate things pretty quick.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

If this were to happen, it would significantly elevate my respect for Putin. I might even consider taking my family to St. Petersburg for a vacation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One party here is banking on the de-escalation tactics of the other to play the situation in their favor. Continuing course with peace tactics knowing the other guy is playing you is not de-escalation

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Thats the problem neither of us matter. Ask a ukranian family that endured 1000 days of war what they think. They are the only ones that matter!

[–] AnyOldName3 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A typical Ukrainian family would recognise that if Russia is allowed to keep a meaningful amount of the territory it's gained, it'll be in Russia's interests to use a peace deal as an opportunity to rebuild equipment, recruit and train more personnel, and then invade one of its neighbours (potentially Ukraine again) in a few years.

Western powers being afraid to escalate during the invasion of Crimea directly encouraged Russia to start it's current invasion of the rest of Ukraine. Fear of escalation leads to more loss of life if you think more than a few months ahead.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago

This dates back to before Crimea; Ukraine's inclusion in NATO could have been a significant step toward ensuring peace. Unfortunately, this is not the reality Ukrainians are facing today. While peace is always preferable to war, it is understandable that the loss of territory is deeply unfavorable and emotionally charged.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have been denied the right to vote out the corruption that is killing them. Including local elections.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

who is they?