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CNBC spoke to a dozen customers caught in the Synapse fintech predicament, people who are owed sums ranging from $7,000 to well over $200,000.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm not from the US so unfamiliar with any of this, but having followed the link to the Yotta website from the article, it is a... gambling site? What leap is missing that people would entrust their savings to gambling?

[–] comador 57 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Might as well be a gambling site: It was a startup bank with no Federal backing (FDIC) that appears to have promised greater returns than traditional banks by investing your money and giving you some of the profits back from dividends.

Still, it was a startup that wasn't fully vested nor backed federally to secure people's deposits. Sad.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The lie was WORSE than that.

A lot of the fintechs invovled actually told people their money was safe, because it was subject to "passthrough FDIC insurance", because their money was ultimately put in an insured bank, and thus was safe.

Problem is that's not how it actually worked, so basically everyone was straight up lied to.

Basically the whole thing is that the bank keeps track of who owns which account and how much money they have, so if they go bust, you just have the FDIC come in and use that data and write checks, basically.

Except since they're disrupting banking, they also decided to just fucking not bother, and so even if there was going to be a payout, nobody has any fucking clue who has how much and in which bank said money was.

Absolute clusterfuck, and about what you'd expect from silly-con valley types.

[–] thesohoriots 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

“Hand us your money and us MBAs promise it’ll eventually get somewhere safe” is not reassuring even before the lie.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

MBAs? Oh my goodness no.

It was a couple of venture capitalists!

[–] clutchtwopointzero 11 points 4 days ago

Wow. Stochastic interest payouts. Another lamentable perverted contribution coming from irresponsible MBA schools

[–] Iheardyoubutsowhat 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

There was no interest on Yotta accounts. Originally, when you signed up, you were given a lottery ticket everyday for every 25$ in the account. There was a lottery everyday where you could win up to 25000. Then they switched to games where you essentially gambled with the tickets that were given based on your amount.

I was once a member but pulled the money when interest rates started to rise. I was lucky.

I'll also note, when signing up, I was given the impression this FDIC insured.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why did you think they were FDIC insured?

[–] Iheardyoubutsowhat 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because they said they were, or implied it. I would not have opened a savings account had they not been.

In theory, these people's money isn't gone, it's just misplaced into other banks if I understand correctly...and none of these entities want to pay for a full audit because of cost and probably, liability.

The banks that actually hold the money are FDIC insured, but Yotta is not it seems. The way it's worded it makes it look like Yotta is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah my understanding is they'll get their money back then

Update: oh, well not if the fintech org didn't actually put your money in those banks lol

[–] bitjunkie 1 points 4 days ago

Originally, it was insured. Synapse changed to brokerage soon before they failed.