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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 week ago (35 children)

Thanks for this! The bullet ballot thing seemed odd but without any real access to information about actual counts I didn't know what to think of it.

Good to know it's more than likely nonsense and we just really suck as a nation and did let Trump win legitimately. :/

[–] spankmonkey 119 points 1 week ago (31 children)

Yeah, he won through good old misinformation, propaganda, and blatant lies because his opposition can't keep the successful message of hope and change going to engage apathetic voters like Obama did and would instead rather pal around with Liz Cheney and Netanyahu to try and peel away MAGA voters.

While voter suppression and Republican election meddling is a real issue, our country sucking is the real underlying problem. We couldn't even do a fucking thing about the insurrection four years ago.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yup. They had a hook with Walz and the 'weird' talking points. That seemed to really resonate with the Republicans and made them go out of their way to highlight out weird they were.

Then they pivoted to try and win Republicans. And... they died.

'Weird' probably wouldn't have won them the election or anything, but it was working. It could have been paired with good, short talking points about helping people, and Walz is a good enough, and genuine enough (or at least appears to be so) guy to really sell those talking points in a way that didn't feel pandering or cynical.

But they really wanted that right-wing vote. It's like right-wingers telling the Democrats that they'll never vote for them just makes the Dems want to win them over that much more.

It's wild.

[–] Eatspancakes84 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s partly the way that non-Trump campaigns are run. They hire a ton of pollsters/consultants that do focus groups to find out voters points of view. They never consider the scenario in which a good candidate can change the worldview of the voters. So it sounds like the candidate never had an original thought in the world, when voters actually want a leader.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah I think that we have been subjected to such abnormal politics for so many years now, that people either forget, or weren't alive to remember, that none of this is normal, and campaigns used to be very different.

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