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The ICC issuance of arrest warrants against Israeli leaders is outrageous. (...)

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[–] LovingHippieCat 38 points 5 days ago (6 children)

That's a super short statement. I'm surprised he even commented on it considering we aren't apart of the ICC. Regardless, Israel is waging a genocide and they needed to be stopped and the current administration needs to be replaced desperately.

"BuT dO YOu COnDeMn HaMAs?" Hamas is shit, they need to be removed from power and a opposition party needs to replace them.

Fuck Israel's government and Fuck Hamas.

[–] lunarul 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

we aren't apart of the ICC

I don't think that means what you think it means

[–] LovingHippieCat 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Nah, it does. The ICC was created by the Rome Statute, and while we helped negotiate it, in order to join it and recognize it's jurisdiction we would have to ratify the treaty. We did initially sign it but didn't ratify it. Then, in 2002, under Bush, we withdrew our signature and said it wouldn't be ratified. We did this because we committed war crimes during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we didn't want Americans to be tried for said war crimes.

It has 124 state members, and we aren't one of them. Some other countries that aren't members are Indonesia, India, China, and Israel (of course). So it's not everyone but us that are a part of it, but yeah. We aren't a part of the ICC even if we are a part of the world.

While we've been an "observer" before, we don't recognize it having jurisdiction over any non-member country.

Edit: unless you mean my usage of apart instead of a part. If so, then this is awkward. I'm always bad at that.

[–] lunarul 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I did mean the "apart", witch makes it mean the opposite.

[–] LovingHippieCat 3 points 5 days ago

Welp. Yeah, I'm bad at getting those right. Plus, my phone has started correcting it to the wrong one. Regardless, thanks for pointing it out! I'm gonna leave it just because you've pointed it out, and we've had this comment chain, though.

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