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For example, let’s say Bernie Sanders was the nominee in 2024 against Trump. A lot of people on the internet seem to like him, even some conservatives. But would liberals fall in line and vote for him enough to beat Trump?

Bernie’s supporters always seem to attack the Democrats liberal base, do you think they’d sit home if Bernie or any leftist was the nominee.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No. And they've said as much.

"Clinton would not pledge to support Sanders if he won the 2020 Democratic nomination."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-sen-bernie-sanders-likes/story?id=68424746

“However – I do reject socialism as a economic system. If people have that view, that’s their view. That is not the view of the Democratic Party.” - Pelosi

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/15/politics/nancy-pelosi-socialism/index.html

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's so sad to see this, especially knowing that while you can like or dislike Clinton and Pelosi, I doubt they are unware that Sanders is not proposing socialism. Socialism and social democracy are two very, vastly different things. And they for sure know this very well.

I sincerely hope that Sanders will found a new party soon, it will have 4 years to gain momentum. Will it win in the next election cycle? No, but it might actually get enough votes to win in 8 or 12 years. Just do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Does Sanders have enough life left in him to develop a far-left party? How will it differ from the existing left-leaning third-parties? How would the party stand out and "matter?" Relevant XKCD

I ask these things as a perennially disappointed minarchist classical liberal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not sure how much these endorsements actually matter... Lord knows Liz Cheney's endorsing Kamala didn't tip the scales.

Would establishment libs support a leftist? Maybe not. But that doesn't mean that voters would necessarily follow suit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's a fair point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Your link is Clinton saying she won't say before the primary is over whether she would support Sanders. It's not even her saying she wouldn't do it, let alone all liberals saying it.

The amount of disinformation spread here is amazing.