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[–] LovableSidekick 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

I'm just gonna keep hammering this in for a while. 81 million Democrats voted in 2020, but only 71 million this year. Trump won by 3.5 million. But hey, at least all you righteous little angels aren't "complicit in genocide", right? Think about that while you polish your halos. YOU did this.

[–] simplymath 39 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The Dems could have forced a ceasefire. The Muslim contingent warned them months ago and polling very clear showed that a ceasefire would have likely changed the result in several critical swing states.

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[–] abbotsbury 32 points 1 month ago (26 children)

But hey, at least all you righteous little angels aren’t “complicit in genocide”, right? Think about that while you polish your halos. YOU did this.

How are you sure that all the missing votes are caused by Pro-Palestinian purity non-voters?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

It hurts too much for them to consider they’re responsible. It’s too close to self awareness.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (7 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKBJoj4XyFc

I linked this higher in this thread, but I need everyone to watch Jon Stewart's post-mortem on Harris' campaign. Like y'all are blaming EVERYTHING on pro-Palestinians, while not even acknowledging the republican-lite ads and interviews the Democrats ran coinciding with a bunch of pro-corporate consultants that joined her campaign in September. Or the fact that a segment of the population doesn't like Trump, but is also racist/sexist enough to not want a black woman as president either.

Lemmy thinks they're smarter than the MAGA crowd, but fall for neoliberal corporate sponsored propaganda instead. First it was hispanic men, then it was Gen Z, now it's Palestine supporters. Meanwhile 57% of white people as a demographic voted for Trump, and MSNBC nor Fox News has nothing to say about that.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I think people on this site put way too much weight on the importance of Gaza for the american voter.

https://samharris.substack.com/p/the-reckoning

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The Harris campaign made plenty of other unforced errors as well. Campaigning with Liz Cheney was certainly a choice.

[–] MirthfulAlembic 7 points 1 month ago

I'm waiting for something from Sam Harris that doesn't devolve into a rant your problematic uncle would give. I had to give up at the cut and paste "Muslims are a big problem" part that he's been parroting since 9/11.

The problem is this basically argues the Democratic party cannot have any diversity of opinions lest the entire party suffer. But Republicans can have fringe members who advocate positions almost all Americans find abhorrent and win across the board.

Also, the trans portion reads like a queerphobic mad libs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Identity politics is over. No one wants it. Latinos and blacks don't even want it, as witnessed by the fact that they moved to Trump in record numbers

He’s sooooo close and yet missed it by a mile. How are our political commentators/class this inept? It’s. The. Economy. Stupid. Identity politics are an issue to those voter blocs - BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY ISSUE VOTERS CARE ABOUT.

You can’t go up the pyramid towards (identity) actualization without having a firm base - of economic and physical safety. A Latino/black/gay/etc person trying to put food on their family’s table and struggling to make ends meet, is going to view your party as deeply unserious if the only thing you’re offering them is representation and token* allyship. Those things are important, but not the start and end of your platform when reaching out to those voters.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh get off your high horse. Voters don't owe the Dems allegiance. The Dems need to win voters. They blew a billion dollars on bullshit instead of representing their electoral constituency. If you want to blame some voters blame those that voted fascist.

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[–] kreskin 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m just gonna keep hammering this in for a while

..Which only reinforces the story that centrists stand for nothing and cant be trusted to lead a party-- especially a "big tent" coalition.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

I love how you said "complicit in genocide" unironically.

Really shows low standards have fallen for Democrats.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly 8 points 1 month ago (18 children)

This was the second highest turnout in a hundred years. In the seven swing states turnout either met or exceeded 2020. This is not an interesting point.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Democrats had 4 years to pass electoral reform and call in reinforcements to fight the republicans. They could have done away with FPTP voting in the states they controlled but instead sat on their hands. They didn't do everything in their power to stop the Republicans. Democrats can no longer be trusted to go it alone.

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