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Lib Dems plan to force vote on replacing Lords with elected upper chamber (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

https://uk.indeed.com/career/software-engineer/salaries https://uk.indeed.com/career/surgeon/salaries

I don't think you realise how much £91000 + expenses actually is in the UK.

And currently the house of Lords is a bunch of old geezers that don't know anything about anything, so yeah, taxi drivers and farmers would be a welcome change. They actually talk to normal people once in a while.

And again, if they feel like serving the public when shaping policy about their profession is important enough, they should be happy to take a pay cut for a few years for the greater good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

And currently the house of Lords is a bunch of old geezers that don't know anything about anything

Look, I'm not British and frankly do think the Lords is silly. But I can name three members of the House of Lords, and 2 of them at least demonstrably deserve to be there on political merit, whether or not you agree with how they vote. I have no idea what the ratio is across the whole of the Lords, but at least not all of them "don't know anything about anything".

Don't get me wrong, I prefer the Australian model where Senators are elected with a proportional system and serve for terms twice as long as lower house MPs. And the Canadian model of "lifetime" (subject to retirement age) appointments also has merit. It's just that not ever single Lord is completely undeserving.

The three Lords that I'm familiar with, fwiw, are David Cameron, David Willetts, and Andrew Lloyd Webber.