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Summary

President-elect Donald Trump’s team is reportedly planning to end two Biden-era immigration programs, potentially making hundreds of thousands of migrants who entered the U.S. legally eligible for deportation.

These programs—CBP One and the CHNV parole program—allowed over 1.3 million migrants from countries like Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela to enter the U.S. legally.

Trump’s initial deportation focus is expected to include individuals deemed national security risks, such as Chinese nationals of military age, as well as those with criminal convictions.

Legal challenges are anticipated, similar to those seen during Trump’s first term.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They announced him as the winner before they even finished counting the popular vote

Yeah, because they knew how many electoral votes each candidate got, it's how that system works. That doesn't mean they just stop counting the popular vote

Look back at the 2016 election. Trump won the electoral votes there as well, while Hillary won the popular vote. And Hillary did not get the presidency.

Do they stop counting when a winner is announced or not, you're inconsistent here

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They didn't stop the count, but it stopped counting. That's my point. And that the popular vote doesn't matter while electoral votes are a thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"the popular vote stopped mattering" is a significantly less shitty wording of your already poor point

The people elected him because people still voted for him. If nobody voted for him then the electoral votes woulda gone elsewhere

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

I have my doubts about this, we had problems with faithless electors in 2016 as well, that's how we put Orange Julius in the white house the first time around without the popular vote. If the electors decided they wanted to vote Trump there's not actually anything preventing them from doing that, there's no law stating that they must vote in step with their electorate. The intended balance to that is supposed to be that you won't get re-elected if the people learn about it, but conservatives don't seem to be concerned with that anymore.

All that to say, if a large pro-Trump section of the electorate decided to just vote for him no matter who their constituents voted for, there's no mechanism to prevent this and it would look an awful lot like the election we just had.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

So then, what was the situation in 2016? What I'm getting at is regardless of which way the popular vote swings, the electoral college can swing the other way and that is a victory for whoever the EC votes for despite the popular vote. So the popular vote is pointless while electoral votes are a thing