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@NomedaBarbarian on Twitter:

Thinking about how I've been lied to as an #ADHD person about what habits are.

That apparently is not what neurotypical folks get to experience.

Habits are things that they do without thinking.

They don't have to decide to do them. They don't have to remember to do them. Things just happen, automatically, because they've done them enough for that system to engage and make them automatic.

That system...which I lack.

Every single time I have brushed my teeth, it's been an active choice. I've had to devote thought and attention to it. It's not a routine, it's not a habit, it's something that I know is good to do, and hopefully I can remember to do it.

Every single time I exercise, or floss, or pay my rent, or drink water, or say "bless you" when someone sneezes,

It's because I've had to actively and consciously engage the protocol.

It never gets easier.

Just more familiar.

It's part of my struggle with my weight--exercise never becomes a habit, and every single time I do it, it is exactly as hard as the first time. It takes exactly as much willpower & thought.

I got lied to about how it would just "turn into a habit". And blamed, when it didn't.

Drinking water isn't a habit. Feeding myself isn't a habit. Bathing isn't a habit.

I spend so much more energy, so much more time, so much more labor on just managing to maintain my fucking meat suit.

And now you want me to ALSO do taxes?

ON TIME?

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[–] [email protected] 186 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Uh... No. This suggests that NTs act like drones, without any thought. Like they're sitting on the sofa, then they just get up, wander to the bathroom, brush their teeth, then get into bed and think "wow how did I get here hahaha what a habit, eh?"

ADHD is many things but it ain't this.

[–] adam_y 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think there's this myth of "the neurotypical"... It's a generic point on a scale that represents the most significant overlap, not any specific person. I genuinely believe no one is "neurotypical", rather some tend towards it and others further away. That's the spectrum. Plus some people might be closer to NT with some things but much further away with others.

For example, I have a pretty good degree of focus, I remember things pretty well, but I struggle to organise my thoughts and can't bear to touch other people or certain textures. I'm sure everyone is a bit like this. Some people more so, some people less.

And that isn't to minimise that there are people out there who really struggle to fit into the "best fit" of Neurotypical-aimed social design.

So why the need to create a mythical group of "Neurotypical"? Is it a need to define ourselves in opposition? Is it to make ourselves feel more unique? Is it a perverse form of gatekeeping?

The upshot is, that until we move towards realising that individuals have individual needs and requirements we aren't going to make substantial progress and describing (and prescribing) otherness only seeks to alienate folk that might otherwise help.

People aren't neurotypical... Systems are. I think that's what I meant to say.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You raise a good point. None of us have had a perfect childhood, nor is it possible to be both perfect and human. Every person is different, and everyone has different strengths and weaknesses.

I think that more people need to be kinder to everyone. You never know what someone has gone through, or what they are going through. Almost everyone is struggling is one way or another. We are all human.

It would be bloody fantastic if the bad stigmas stopped from both sides. Working together on this stuff is the only way to make it easier for us all.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

ERROR: BED MODE ALREADY ACTIVE. UNABLE TO ACTIVATE DENTAL PROTOCOL.

[–] 5quidSteve 14 points 1 year ago

thank you. we really really need more of this. thank you.

[–] RedNeedle 11 points 1 year ago

ND is the new introverted.

Only introverts think deeply, get anxious, or enjoy academic pursuits. Do you have a counterexample? Oh, well that person just doesn't know they're an introvert, so the pattern still holds!

Same with ND/NT. Nobody is neurotypical according to this definition because everyone has something they struggle with or are quirky about.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not neurotipical, but I'm pretty sure ADHD isn't in the mix of whatever I have. The situation you described occures to me on a regular basis

[–] ilex 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then how do you explain that one Talking Heads song?

[–] DarthBueller 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure how meta your comment is supposed to be beyond "how did I get here?," but ironically, David Byrne is on the spectrum.

[–] Tinawebmom 1 points 1 year ago

For me it is this. When I was married he didn't understand when I would request reminders to go to the bathroom, shower, eat, do laundry. He laughed. He thought I had dementia.

Nope just adhd with a swiss cheese memory.