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Trump will give Israel ‘blank check’ which may mean all-out war with Iran, says ex-CIA chief
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2024
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Yeah it's about to go region wide. Many 10s of millions more will be in active combat zones. What we have now is just a primer.
Edit As a highwater, Israel flirts with nuking Iran if they become nuclear capable.
The actions that led to it becoming region wide happened under the Biden administration. The ongoing genocide is happening under the Biden administration. Biden gave Israel virtually unlimited arms and funding to perform all these actions. The middle east is a powder keg right now and whether or not Trump won would have been irrelevant. It's about to blow.
Bidens admin has tried to maintain the status quo. They wish things could go back to say, 2019 status or so. It's still shitty, it's still unjust for Palestine's innocent, but there isn't a full world war happening.
Trump's team wants to get actively involved. They want to go far beyond the status quo. They don't think what is happening today is enough. They want open war with Iran and it's satellites. They want Palestine depopulated and to rebuild vacation condos in its place.
I get it you think it's really bad now. I agree.
But we are about to get someone actively hoping to make it worse. More, more, more.
We stopped being status quo months ago. This is not normal. Biden had the power to make it go back to normal with a single phone call. Israel is America's proxy, not the other way around.
The genocide in Gaza is currently underway. So what's worse than a genocide? I'm honestly asking here. How does it get worse than this? Keep in mind there's also the war with Lebanon and the escalations with Iran to talk about as well.
A wider genocide. A nuclear war. American soldiers actively involved, essentially another iraq war. A US administration not seeking the relative calm of the past but a 2025 with NO Palestine, no Iran, no Yemen.
With all that Israel has been emboldened do you honestly believe they will stop with Gaza? What do you think their incursions into the West Bank or Lebanon have been about?
I've never claimed that.
The domino pieces for a wider regional war has been falling consistently over the past 13 months. That's on Biden. He helped turn trhe middle east into a powder keg because he couldn't keep one of America's proxies in check. Whether or not Trump won would have been irrelevant. The escalations that are about to happen would have happened anyway due to the unconditional support for Israel by both the Democrats and Repbulicans.
I disagree that the rate, and overall scope are the same with Biden/Harris or trump. I'm contending, based on his admins own words, that things will accelerate faster, and end up worse with trump. I'm not suggesting things would be chill and peaceful with Harris.
The rate of a genocide matters very little. At the end of the day, a genocide is a genocide.
Huh? That's insane. We hope that an existing genocide is slower, obviously ideally slow = 0. More time for more lives for peace talks to bring it to an end.
What peace talks? The ones where Netanyahu actively sabotaged them and then gleefully kills more Palestinian kids? None of that is happening and the current rate is not a slow one. It was a slow one before Oct 7th.
My guy, I'm not arguing that terrible genocide isn't happening. It's a hypothetical about how when people aren't dead, hypothetically ending the conflict can save their lives. This is why the rate matters.
You are latched on to minutia, when I'm suggesting a slower, hopefully stopped genocide is better than a sped up, expanded genocide.
If the genocide kills 1 person per year, that's better than one that kills 1,000,000 per year.
Because you are being very pedantic, let me be clear: I don't think what's happening now is close to 1. I don't claim 1 or 1,000,000 is the accurate number. It's an illustration.
Trumps team has made clear they want wider war. So WHATEVER is going on now is not enough for the trump team. Pick your number, pick your actors pick your locations. I'm not contesting any of it. I'm saying whatever you say is happening now, they want more.