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In light of the recent election, it’s clear that the Democratic Party needs a significant leftward shift to better address the needs and concerns of the American people. The party’s centrist approach is increasingly out of touch, limiting its ability to appeal to a broader base and especially to young voters, who are looking for bold and transformative policies. The fact that young men became a substantial part of the conservative voting bloc should be a wake-up call—it’s essential that the Democratic Party broadens its appeal by offering real solutions that resonate with this demographic.

Furthermore, one major missed opportunity was the decision to forgo primaries, which could have brought new energy and ideas to the ticket. Joe Biden’s choice to run for a second term, despite earlier implications of a one-term presidency, may have ultimately contributed to the loss by undermining trust in his promises. Had the party explored alternative candidates in a primary process, the outcome could have been vastly different. It is now imperative for the Working Families Party and the Progressive Caucus to push for a stronger, unapologetically progressive agenda within the Democratic Party. The time for centrist compromises has passed, as evidenced by setbacks dating back to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, the persistently low approval ratings for Biden since 2022, and Kamala Harris’s recent campaign, which left many progressives feeling alienated. To regain momentum and genuinely connect with the electorate, a clear departure from moderate politics is essential.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Politicians do the things people ~~vote~~ donate for.

After that, they say things they think the people want to hear.

And blameing the public over not voting for somone they don't want to vote for, seems backwards. Politicians aren't entitled to any votes. They need to earn it.

[–] Kethal 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What horseshit. They didn't write in any candidate, like there was no one in the whole world they could think of that they want as president.

Do you think there's one ballot in this whole country that has a single question on it - like there was nothing out there worth voting on other than the presidential race?

Saying there's nothing to vote for is an excuse to be lazy. If you couldn't find one single thing on your ballot to vote for in this election, then you're never going to vote, for any reason. Everyone knows it, and therefore no one cares what nonvoters say. So sit here and do what you do best, blow hard on the Internet. You can post your little commets, that no one will read or care about, because at the end of the day they know no matter what they do or say, you won't go to the polls to stop them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Saying there's nothing to vote for is an excuse to be lazy.

Who said there's nothing to vote for?

[–] Kethal 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

"And blameing the public over not voting for somone they don’t want to vote for, seems backwards."

You are implying that there is no one to vote for. There are more than two candidates, and you can write in anyone you want. And there are many questions on the ballot. No one is blaming anyone for not voting for someone they don't like. They're blaming them for voting for nothing, at all, among many important races and initiatives, with the possibility of writing in anyone, then saying "You can't blame me; there's not something I want to vote for".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

You are implying that there is no one to vote for.

Not at all. You even quoted me saying someone, not anyone.

No one is blaming anyone for not voting for someone they don't like.

I guess I'm assuming they don't like either of the possible winners, I didn't think of the others, because they don't matter.

"You can't blame me; there's not something I want to vote for."

I've never seen that. Do you see it frequently? How many times this week?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If you couldn’t find one single thing on your ballot to vote for in this election, then you’re never going to vote, for any reason.

This is why elections famously always have the same amount of turnout.