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California Voted for Slavery (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you sure? It seems pretty straightforward to me. “This amendment would bar slavery and involuntary servitude.” It’s the first sentence.

[–] rdrunner 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I bet the wording on the ballot was different. Similar election results sites for my local ballot measures hasve greatly simplified the language the ballot had (which honestly is probably how ballot measures should be written)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

[–] krashmo 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or maybe Americans are largely shitty people. Stop trying to excuse the behavior and accept it for what it is

[–] rdrunner 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well yeah, obviously, but the wording of a question is often manipulated to lead people to different results. That's all

[–] AngryCommieKender 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The wording on the ballot was summarized, but it hit the key points.

PROP 6

ELIMINATES CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION ALLOWING INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE FOR INCARCERATED PERSONS. LEGISLATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. SUMMARY Put on the Ballot by the Legislature

Amends the California Constitution to remove current provision that allows jails and prisons to impose involuntary servitude to punish crime (i.e., forcing incarcerated persons to work). Fiscal Impact: Potential increase or decrease in state and local costs, depending on how work for people in state prison and county jail changes. Any effect likely would not exceed the tens of millions of dollars annually.

Supporters: Assemblymember Lori Wilson

Opponents: None submitted

WHAT YOUR VOTE MEANS

YES A YES vote on this measure means: Involuntary servitude would not be allowed as punishment for crime. State prisons would not be allowed to discipline people in prison who refuse to work.

NO A NO vote on this measure means: Involuntary servitude would continue to be allowed as punishment for crime. ARGUMENTS

PRO Proposition 6 ends slavery in California and upholds human rights and dignity for everyone. It replaces carceral involuntary servitude with voluntary work programs, has bipartisan support, and aligns with national efforts to reform the 13th Amendment. It will prioritize rehabilitation, lower recidivism, and improve public safety, resulting in taxpayer savings.

CON No argument against Proposition 6 was submitted.

That's what we were all mailed to our particular mail collection place.

On the actual ballot it was clear that a "yes" vote was a vote to abolish the clause in our state constitution that allowed this barbary.

[–] rdrunner 1 points 2 weeks ago

Oh interesting, that's a lot more clear than what our mail in ballots looked like in my state.I guess fuck those people then

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

You know, reading that today, and putting myself in the shoes of an overworked, everyday American, it seems the wording does leave something to be desired. I wonder how that vote would have turned out if the question were: "Do you support slavery as long as the person was convicted of a crime and is in prison?"

[–] billbasher 1 points 2 weeks ago

With the amount of people that voted for Trump I don’t have much confidence in the literacy of randos