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[鈥揮 [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Abandon people for days > Going to take photos with the same people. What did they expect?

Edit: fix typo

[鈥揮 [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tell you have no idea how civil protection and emergency response works in Spain without telling me you have no idea how civil protection and emergency response works in Spain.

Emergency response is the responsibility of the autonomous communities not of the national government which only makes resources available to the regional governments. Valencians were abandoned by their own politicians.

[鈥揮 [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I know it all too well; I'm from Valencia and I've seen firsthand how official help barely arrived on time鈥攐nly the volunteers, the local community, and a few from the UME stepped up. Politicians from both the Valencian Community and Spain promised assistance, but it never came. It took days for official help to show up. Then they come for a visit, just to take photos, like that actually does anything. They cleaned the streets where they were going to walk, but left the rest of the neighborhood a mess. People have lost everything, and the politicians just come to play politics. The reaction is totally understandable.

[鈥揮 [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Woah there mate, clearly the solution is to get more politicians to walk all the streets so that everything gets cleaned. You need more, not less politicians

[鈥揮 [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago
[鈥揮 vxx 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Apparently they were primarily mad at the politicians, not the royals.

Prime Minister S谩nchez and the head of Valencian regional government, Carlos Maz贸n, joined the royal couple on the visit, but were swiftly evacuated as the crowd grew increasingly hostile.

Spanish media reports that objects were hurled at S谩nchez, while footage verified by the BBC appears to show stones being thrown at his car as he was driven away.

After he left, the crowd chanted: "Where is S谩nchez?"

[鈥揮 [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So fucking funny that they chanted against Sanchez when it was their right wing regional party who had a horrendous management of not closing businesses and having tons of people killed. Carlos Maz贸n is the one who abandoned them, not Sanchez.

For Americans, this is just like Texans that chanted against Biden when Ted Cruz fucking fled with the weather issue they had some time ago.

[鈥揮 [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They chanted against Maz贸n too: "隆Maz贸n dimisi贸n!". It's the fault of both Sanchez and Maz贸n. Both regional and national politics have failed. And the royals are useless; they take a large chunk of money from our taxes and then serve no purpose. It's normal for people to get angry with them.

[鈥揮 [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Then it's OK. I agree that nationally more should have been done, too.

[鈥揮 [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

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[鈥揮 [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

hola, s铆, estoy suscrito desde hace tiempo pero me acabo de dar cuenta del mensaje fijado, porque no veo los mensajes, ahora lo arreglo

[鈥揮 [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[鈥揮 kippinitreal 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This seems like... a bad idea? If I understand you correctly, each region maintains disaster relief infrastructure & staff with help from the central/national government? If so, does that translate to richer regions being less affected by calamities (since they can pour more money into said infrastructure than the bare minimum)?

In most countries (with such plans in place) the national government maintains all disaster relief management to assist local governments, right?

Sorry I've asked a lot of questions, but I'm genuinely interested to know!