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X11 vs Wayland (lemmy.ml)

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I'm a seasoned Linux user, but mostly for servers and services, not really for desktop use.

I've dabbled in some desktop distros on my personal rig a few times in the past, but ultimately due to specific games, I've gone back to Windows.

I recently installed Arch and KDE. Upon initial boot I noticed it was defaulted to Wayland. Every time I would try to log in it would just go to a black screen then cycle back to the login screen. Picking X11 would bring me to the desktop.

Basic Specs:

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3D
nVidia RTX 4090

I have been doing some reading into this and it looks like the issue is due to the proprietary nVidia drivers, but there are solutions to work around this.

I know nothing of Wayland other than its supposed to be more secure. My question is, is it worth the time/effort to get Wayland working? I primarily use my system for gaming. X11 seems to be working just fine for me right now.

Forgive me if I'm using some of the terminology wrong, still learning.

EDIT - Selling my gpu is not an option. I knew ahead of time that AMD has superior Linux support, but the 4090's performance can't be matched by anything AMD has. Maybe next upgrade I'll go back to AMD if they have the top performer.

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[–] INeedMana 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm using Arch, Wayland, AMD GPU, Discord, Steam (Proton, so xWayland) for playing. I don't remember when I switched to Wayland, might be even more than a year.

I remember that I liked something about configuration and internal logic but mostly, for me, it just works. I don't see much difference from purely user perspective.

[–] jarredpickles87 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does Wayland allow desktop/app streaming via discord natively? I remember trying to screen share in discord last year on Ubuntu and it didn't work because of Wayland. I read that there were workarounds, but I didn't have the time to invest in that then.

[–] INeedMana 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They fixed this sometime this year. Camera and screen sharing in Discord work, OBS works too

[–] jarredpickles87 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that's awesome! Now I have a follow up question: does Mint use Wayland because that's what I'd be using on my gaming PC if I move over. (Which I'm currently assessing my use cases)

[–] INeedMana 2 points 1 year ago

Not out of the box, it seems. But I haven't used Mint for some time now

[–] that_leaflet 1 points 1 year ago

Nope. But there is work being done in this regard. KDE has the XWayland Video Bridge project that allows XWayland applications to see native Wayland windows. But it's not available in stable versions of KDE yet and needs polishing.

I don't think audio sharing works yet either.