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I'm a Bernie guy, but you've gotta be pragmatic when the literal alternative is the end of America as a democracy.
We can go back to debating when our nation isn't at stake.
Who said fascists lack pragmatism?
Which supposed election cycle was the country not at stake?
Why do you believe democracy is healthy and functioning in America?
Basically every single one prior to 2016. If you're too young to remember those, then you're operating on a window of time that's too small. The Obama era was fine, and nobody said the country was at stake. Civility was still part of politics. Prior to that, the Clinton, and Bush eras were also just fine - Nobody claimed the country was at stake during those elections either. How is it that you don't see the massive difference between those time periods?
It isn't, currently - because of the Supreme Court appointees. The only way to fix this is to vote D enough times that they can appoint some of their own Supreme court justices so that the system balances back again.
IF the votes are close enough for Republicans to finally pull off enough bullshit to hand themselves the election - they'll do it from now until civil war. You won't have the ABILITY to vote again. The only way to correct the current problem of the real fascists (Republicans) being able to push the system completely over, is to remove their positions of power. I've already voted straight D down the ticket. I've done my part.
The only counter to a heavily skewed Republican supreme court is a heavily skewed Democrat Congress. That's the whole point of checks and balances in this country.
And the fact of the matter is, regardless of this genocide, both parties right now are supporting it. With one, you get to continue pushing your voice - the other one has promised to arrest and/or kill protesters and has instances of praising Putin for his way of maintaining control; by killing his defectors.
So it's clear, that if you want your voice to be heard in the long term, that you'll vote for the side that keeps American democracy alive.
You're definitely a white man to believe anything was better for average black Americans and women.
In the 60-80s when political violence and assassination was rampant?? What is your age exactly? *Obama didn't experience rampant racism in his run and tenure?
Pretty big flip flop, but I appreciate your admission nonetheless. It's too difficult to take you seriously given the circumstances of your wildly ignorant framework of understanding.
I love how you gloss over the biggest part of my reply. Thanks for taking the mask off. This is a big tell for you guys. Drop to racial division, ignore voting as an important tool for changing things. It's always racial division; I guess that's in part of your guidebook on how to sew division. Every single one of you operatives jump to that no matter how the discussion is going.
Nothing that you've said gives anyone any reason why they shouldn't vote for Kamala. Racism against Obama? I'm a white man? Sounds like a perfect reason to vote Kamala. Thanks for playing, psyop.
You ignored every point I made yet you feel entitled to me spoon feeding you more answers. How privileged was your upbringing?
Keep your mask and hood on as you argue for making America great again.
Because yes, the person telling you to vote for Kamala is a Trump supporter that totally makes sense. And the person telling you not to vote is...doing what exactly?
Certainly not attempting to help.
Mods, this one is a troll - their mask is clearly off at this point.
I appreciate you sharing your feelings of privileged entitlement to "help" from people that you insult.
Not everyone is capable of comprehending nuanced and complex ideas. Simple minds demand simplistic solutions to complex problems.
This is another tell. The "become the victim". If you've noticed, I've been awfully careful not to insult you anywhere...but you didn't pick up on that. :)
You are absolutely going by-the-book here...
This is you trying awfully hard?
When you named-called* me a troll and attacked my imagined age which is arbitrarily lower than sufficient to think critically about my words?
Are you too young to remember making this about me instead of your dear leader Harris?
Awww, trying to change context by leaving out the whole quote! How cute.
Is the quote. Thanks for playing.
You think old people have better memory than young people?
Your hero Biden is known for his cognitive abilities right?
There's this weird effect where, people can only remember the times they've been alive. Weird how that works. Like me, I don't remember 100 years ago, because I wasn't around back then.
And clearly people voted for Biden for the same reason they're voting Harris now; to keep a known threat to America from gaining power. Nobody fanboys for Biden. We know what he is.
Ok