Cleggory

Corruption is thought to be exponentially worse in recent yearswith Zelensky publicly firing corrupt military figures.

There are almost a hundred other countries that rank less corrupt than the Ukrainian government.

The territories in dispute are unlivable minefields for the next few generations as per Vietnam.

America wasted billions already showing no understanding of Ukraine.

At most, 34% Americans can find Ukraine on a map.

https://pro.morningconsult.com/instant-intel/can-americans-find-ukraine-on-a-map

Elections don't negate the most corrupt governments in the world.

"Literally" use Google to see any of the numerous sources stating the fact that Ukraine is far below average in terms of corruption and democracy.

https://www.statista.com/chart/16834/countries-and-territories-ranked-on-perceived-public-sector-corruption/

https://www.democracymatrix.com/ranking

Do you expect me to move along to your new goalpost, and pretend Ukraine is a real democratic state despite ranking behind 91 other states including Sierra Leone and Myanmar. Index

While you spout nonsense about democracy, most westerners have declared their utter dissatisfaction.

A record-low 28% of Americans are satisfied with the way democracy is working in the United States, down from 35% in early 2021 (Source: “American satisfaction with democracy at record low: Gallup”, published January 6, 2024).

I had imagined only children would be so naive as to think Putin values the lives of the soldiers he sacrifices.

They may be making territorial gains but that is at a massive cost.

You do realize those territories are not just land, right?

Please quote where you think I said this.

on that land that will now be under a dictator.

Ukraine is a free and fair democracy??

without American support, which will almost certainly be ending, it's a lost war

Ukrainians were winning the war with US support??

A phone call on Friday between German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Russian President Vladimir Putin drew criticism from Zelensky, who accused Scholz of opening a “Pandora’s box” that only works to undermine efforts to isolate Russia’s leader.

The more western nations have tried to isolate Russia, the stronger its bonds have grown with China, Iran, India, Brazil, North Korea, and numerous other nations.

Zelensky may well value an end to the war more than the territories he expects to concede. It would be more irrational to try the same thing (if Harris had won) and expect a different outcome to the war.