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More than 100 Arizona Palestinian, Arab, Muslim, and progressive Democrats and community leaders have signed a letter making the case for those reluctant to support Kamala Harris against Donald Trump.

“We know that many in our communities are resistant to vote for Kamala Harris because of the Biden administration’s complicity in the genocide,” the letter, published Thursday night, reads.

“Some of us have lost many family members in Gaza and Lebanon. We respect those who feel they simply can’t vote for a member of the administration that sent the bombs that may have killed their loved ones,” the letter continued. “As we consider the full situation carefully, however, we conclude that voting for Kamala Harris is the best option for the Palestinian cause and all of our communities.”

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[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not the way this works, you knob. You make a claim, YOU back it up. Don't go handing out homework assignments, this isn't 5th period civics.

[–] pjwestin -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pro-Palestinian delegates say their request for a speaker at DNC was shut down

Kamala Harris Refused to Meet With Uncommitted About Gaza

Detroit Muslim leader ejected from Kamala Harris rally

Usually, when I'm presented with information I'm unfamiliar with, I take a minute to search it myself before I expose everyone to my ignorance, especially when the comment isn't directed at me. Anyway, the original commenter was being a bit hyperbolic, but yes, the Harris campaign has made some major snubs towards the Arab community, and she hasn't done any campaign events with Arab leaders.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Usually, when i make some kind of claim, i back it up with links without being pissy about it. But hey, you managed several little backhanded digs, so go slay queen.

[–] pjwestin 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right, let me be a little more front-handed; Harris' rejection of the Palestinian community has been in the news since this summer, and you and the other commenter are kinda showing your whole ass by going, "Harris excluding Muslims? LOL, source," especially since your commenting on an article about her struggles with the Muslim community that directly references one of the examples I gave you. People should be able to back up their claims with sources, but they're not obligated to explain the news to you.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All this because you're trying to hand out homework. Next time, just link your sources, the first time. I have no dog in this hunt beyond pointing out your smug superiority.

[–] pjwestin 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah, once again, that wasn't me. If you looked at the profile name, or read my first comment more carefully, you'd know that was a different commenter. I just get annoyed when people demand sources when they clearly haven't even read the article their commenting on.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I get annoyed at people making some easily backed up claim, and then following up with "do your own homework." Fuck that. You (editorial "You", not you personally) took the time to type out the response, but expect other to locate and follow your trail of breadcrumbs?

[–] pjwestin 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And I think there's a difference between asking people to back up a fact or statistic and asking people to read the news for you. If someone is going to do the latter, then they should at least start with a polite (or at least neutral) inquiry before jumping to skeptical demands for sources.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. They're eating the pets."

"Show us your source."

"I saw it on tv."

Same shit. The polite things to do is provided your source with your claim, not demand that people go and confirm your claim for you. That's backwards.

[–] pjwestin 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where's that quote from? Citation needed.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An example is not a claim. But keep trying, you'll get there.

[–] pjwestin 1 points 1 month ago

The original commenter did give an example. They referenced the DNC not allowing a Palestinian to speak (which, again, is cited the article that we all presumably read before we started commenting). That example was met with, "citation needed."

Anyway, I'm not familiar with the quote you gave, I feel no obligation to look it up, but I do feel entitled to your time and energy. Provide me with a hyperlink proving it's real or it never happened.