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[–] [email protected] 195 points 1 month ago (39 children)

It is a fantastically useful material, except for all the mesothelioma.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That and lead in paint and gasoline all worked amazingly.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Lead in gasoline was a stop-gap solution. If I remember correctly , it was added because we didn't have the technology at the time to refine gas sufficiently to get the octane levels necessary to prevent pre-ignition of fuel (which causes rod knock) at a reasonable cost. Tetraethyl lead effectively increased the octane level/resistance to pre-ignition. As a side benefit, the lead slightly lubricated the valves and valve seats so that they lasted for tens of thousands of miles, instead of needing to be reground every few thousand miles.

It was a stupid stop-gap though, esp. since the dangers of lead were well known by then.

[–] EvacuateSoul 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're getting something done to your engine every few thousand miles?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. Before tetraethyl lead was removed from gas--in the 70s, I think?--engines were not nearly as good as they are now. My dad was doing really, really well to get 100,000 miles out of a car in the 60s and 70s; you used to see a service station attached to every single gas station, because of how much service cars needed. Now, 200,000 miles is close to the minimum that people would expect with only preventative maintenance. It's nearly unheard of for people to need to replace valves and regrind valve seat now, except for high compression, high RPM engines (esp. supersport motorcycles). But that was just normal before the mid-70s. My dad has done multiple full teardowns on engines before the 80s, replacing head gaskets, piston rings, valves, and so on. These days that's almost unheard of.

I think that the most intensive valve maintenance that I'm aware of that's common right now is cleaning carbon off for some of the direct injection engines. I know that it's an issue with Volkswagon cars, but most cars don't do DI. You'd have to check technical service bulletins (TSBs), but most cars are very trouble free compared to what you could expect prior to the 80s.

[–] EvacuateSoul 1 points 1 month ago

Very interesting, thanks for the reply.

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