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European auto giants launch a flurry of cheaper electric vehicles — taking the fight to China (www.cnbc.com)
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" ... as soon as vehicles come in the right price range next year … people will flock to buy them.”

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[–] Ensign_Crab 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their justification for tariffs on Chinese cars was that they were uncompetitively cheap due to subsidies.

That was the justification, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whether you agree or not with their justification (or think that it's not the real reason), they clearly have no justifications (or reasons) to impose tariffs on unsubsidized (or at least not as heavily subsidized) EU cars.

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except for the oil lobby.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The oil lobby wouldn't be specifically against cars from another region, they are against electric vehicles in general, whether they are produced domestically or otherwise. The primary benefactors from the tariffs are the US electric car manufacturers, who would lose profit over not being able to compete with subsidized cars. They are probably the ones who lobbied for them.

[–] Ensign_Crab 2 points 2 months ago

The oil lobby wouldn’t be specifically against cars from another region, they are against electric vehicles in general, whether they are produced domestically or otherwise.

They're against inexpensive electric vehicles.