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I have offered supporting evidence for my points, and rather than counter any of it, you make the baseless claim that the GOP would start executing Socialists before the DNC, when that's a bipartisan time-honored tradition.
You have not explained why you think that the GOP would execute Socialists faster, nor why you think disparity would meaningfully slow down or reverse under the Democrats. Far-right violence rose under Biden compared with Trump, because neither party works against climbing disparity.
The answer is to join revolutionary orgs like the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) or Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO). Only through organization outside the electoral system does the Proletariat have any hope of steering the ship and seizing the reigns.
I addressed your "supporting evidence." It turns out it very easy to have supporting evidence if you pretend deliberately being arrested is the same as being brutalized over a protest. You do not address that. "They're different but actually the same. Therefore both sides are the same."
It turns out if you define fascism such that everyone in the government are the same party contributing to it, then both sides are equally fascist. "Dictator day one" is the same as "small business" because the economics are the fascism. Are ridiculous tax cuts for the wealthy the same? "Yes, both sides are the same because the Dems are not stopping it." Oh. Should we vote against more tax cuts by hoping the facade that the "Dems" (Uniparty, actually, muh both sides) are against it? "No, because of reasons.
"They should ignore Uncommitted, listen to their wife instead, throw their ballot in the trash. I'm not urging anyone to vote in any way, just discussing economics."
"Far right violence is rising under Biden because of disparity." Oh. Should we have a president that maintains a facade (muh both sides Duopoly, of course) of being against far-right violence or one that encourages it. "Actually both are the same."
Yes, your arguments are very serious and you are the only good faith participant here.
I did not say they were the same. I said I recognize where they are similar.
You are drawing false-equivalences that I did not draw. Again, what is fascism? You haven't answered that. You just continued to make the same assertions.
Uncommitted is one group, and evem Uncommitted didn't endorse Harris. Abandon Harris has endorsed Stein, for example. Why is Uncommitted the group you listen to? Why not the majority of Arab-Americans, who are going to Stein? I am telling you that voting will not stop or even slow fascism.
We should stop thinking either will slow it down and instead focus on organizing.
Now you're making sense!