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[–] [email protected] 54 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

They really should be touting this more to get young people out to vote. This is a very clear division among young people who want/deserve relief, and which party is trying to give it and which is doing everything they can to stop it.

This is such an easy win for Democrats and yet...

[–] capital_sniff 5 points 7 hours ago

If I were in charge of any of their campaigning I'd also hammer reproductive rights, weed, and healthcare. Instead it looks like the Dems are going to keep getting cornered on the economy and Israel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If Biden told the supreme court to go fuck themselves and forgave all student loan debt they would care.

This isn’t even a drop in the bucket of the total student loan debt in this country

[–] Googlyman64 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

ah yes, biden telling 1/3 of our government (who happen to be mostly trump's cronies) to fuck themselves can't end badly

we do need such grand, sweeping changes to help our country, but unfortunately all we can manage are these baby steps, which are still important for progress

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

It wouldn't be the first time we've just ignored the supreme court

[–] [email protected] -4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Idk, it feels manipulative to me. All they've done here is follow through on existing policy. I have higher standards for being impressed than doing what you're required to do, even if others before you failed to do so.

[–] GaMEChld 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Almost feels like you're saying that if people do the exact job you put them there to do, that's not good enough for them to keep their jobs.

It is, of course. So they get my vote.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, no. That's pretty clearly not what I'm saying.

I'm saying I expect my government to do more than simply follow through on 17 year old laws and pretend like that's some amazing achievement. And student loans in particular have been abysmally handled by Biden, both in his Senate career and his failed promises to the populace when running for president.

"But the Supreme Court": yes, but they were a known obstacle and he still chose to delay any attempt for two years in order to try to double dip, which still ultimately failed. He knowingly left the people with crushing student loan debt to suffer while waiting for a politically expedient time to even try. And he failed anyway, so why wait?

[–] GaMEChld 2 points 2 hours ago

Well we've got two options. Vote for them or not. Which would you recommend people do?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't really care. I don't necessarily agree, but even if I did, I don't care at this point.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 hours ago

Well... I'm responding to you saying they should use this to get young people to vote. I'm saying that's not a good idea because it's manipulative and only serves to highlight all the ways they haven't followed through on student loan debt, instead they keep touting tiny band aids and legislation signed into law by Bush Jr.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Proving that you can and do follow through on existing policy is still a good thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

Sure, but that's the bare minimum. That's not going to inspire apathetic voters. Claiming credit for a Democratic Congress / George W Bush admin era piece of legislation is not very impressive.

Especially since the Democrats passed it with a 49+2 / 49 majority in the Senate (and filibustering still very much a thing), so it's a stark contrast to all the stuff they claimed wasn't possible during the Biden admin because they simply didn't have a strong enough majority in the Senate even without a Republican president. I know times are different now, but it kind of paints a circle around the lack of legislative backbone this administration has had.