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Python is still the most popular coding language, but challengers are gaining ground
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I really wonder about their methodology. JavaScript/Typescript is nearly ubiquitous in webdev, and has been making strides in the backend space for almost a decade now. No matter how you feel about it (yeah it's terrible, I've been press-ganged into it this year) it's a real force in the marketplace.
It's super surprising to me it's still behind C and C++.
The fact that the scratch language is in the top 20 should tell you how seriously you should take this metric. TIOBE measures the number of search hits mentioning the language. So a language that is popular with learners, or that has poor documentation and thus requires a lot of third party documentation, or that it is profitable to run ads next to will all be inflated.
I personally think the advertising bump is why matlab is on there. Matlab programmers are the kind of dingleberries that love to pay for something that everyone else uses a foss alternative for.
Lol I love the unfiltered shade
Some places are inextricably tied to SimuLink due to how long it was around before any of the alternatives.
C/C++ still has a huge place in firmware, microcontrollers, operating systems, drivers, application development, video games, real-time systems and so on. It's a totally different space of programming to webdev, which might explain the surprise.
No! C is legacy! No one uses it anymore! It's too hard!
/s
I mean it's not hard so much as very dated and a bit shit.
I could use raw pointers in c# if I wanted to. But it's just not a great way to do things.
C will likely have a place where low languages are required for a long time. But everywhere else there's little reason to choose over more modern languages.
I'm not really a webdev, more backend or full stack at this point. I do know about C & C++ strong presence in firmware, OS, HPC, video gaming, and elsewhere.
But by the numbers there's a lot more webdevs than any other kind out there, and that doesn't even touch on NodeJS leaking into backend and elsewhere.
Not only that, but with toolchains like deno, it's almost enjoyable
I wrote some telegram bots in deno and it's got one of the cleanest deploy chains around, just compile to an executable for the target architecture, and SCP it over. Exec is statically linked, and so it just works
https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programminglanguages_definition/
There's just such a massive volume of web development compared to systems programming?
I wonder how much of that actually is development and not just the gazillionth instance of some web site builders scripts.
Everyone that does frontend works with JS/TS and it's becoming popular on the backend as well. Definitely the most popular language IMO.
*in the web dev domain.
Which also has a very disproportionate representation on the web - for obvious reasons. And it is very easy to get stuck in the mentatilty that all you see if the domain you are in so you over estimate how large it is compaired to other domains. But lets not forget general application development, old large scale enterprise, embedded systems, game dev, machine learning and many more spaces where JS/TS are barely used at all.
A lot of the software that makes JavaScript web development possible is C or C++, like web servers, databases, operating systems, network devices.