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‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, I doubt that they're stupid. They don't think that they other guy will be better. However, I also doubt that Sophie Scholl thought that her death alone would stop the Holocaust. Sometimes there's a moral line that you just can't cross.

[–] skeezix 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Voting for trump (or proxy voting for him) is crossing a moral line.

And brings them further from their goal.

Rage voting doesn’t fix anything. It stands to make it worse.

I can’t understand some people’s drive to vote in a tyrant because they’re annoyed by a centrist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The hitch is that other people do what's right according to their own moral reckoning, whether you understand it or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I don’t think voting for Trump will help the Palestinians, when he says things like,

“you’ve got to have victory. You have to have a victory, and it’s taking a long time." Trump said that Israel must "finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Or, as we call it, cutting off the nose to spite the face.

As long as they own the side effects, then cool.

[–] IMALlama 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish Harris was coming out more strongly, or at all really, against Israel's genocide. I can't imagine Trump will do anything substantial to reduce the conflict, certainly not more than Harris will.

I do not understand the Sophie Scholl analogy. Sophie distributed anti-war leaflets, among other things. She did not advocate voting for another party that would likely just continue the war, while also removing other freedoms, into power.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The connection that I have in mind is, "doing what's moral, even if it might harm yourself."

[–] IMALlama 6 points 4 weeks ago

I do not understand how supporting Trump will result in a better outcome in Gaza 🤷 If anything, it seems like the opposite is likely.