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We should really do something - unless it means doing anything (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You have to understand how Vance views the issue. For him abortion isn't a meet in the middle stance. Abortion to him and folks similar see the matter as only having one possibly correct solution.

Thus for him, "Americans instinctively mistrust us" doesn't mean that his position would evolve, it's that "to him", he's done a "bad job" making your stance evolve.

The hard line Republicans aren't interested in finding common ground, they're more interested in what you will change your opinion to or at the very least what unacceptable positions you'll tolerate. There is never going to be an evolution or common ground to be found with these folks because that's distinctly not the position that they are looking for.

[–] MimicJar 70 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This stood out for me during the VP debate when Vance said,

in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum in 2023, and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly, by the way, against my position. And I think that what I learned from that, Norah, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust.

That's an insane statement.

What Vance should have learned from that is that he has a position that an OVERWHELMING number of people disagree with.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right. The normal thing to do is either to concede your VP race, or concede your hard-line position.

But he is just saying "I learned I need to convince people harder that I'm right." Which is bat shit crazy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

He's supporting Trump, what do you expect?

[–] Soup 8 points 2 months ago

“Norah did you know that I don’t represent the will of the people that I was elected to represent? It’s wild! Anyway here’s how that’s their fault.”

(And it kinda is, but either way what a douche)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I always wonder whether that is something that people like him consciously say or whether he actually thinks like that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks for this breakdown, you stated it so much better than I could have.