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Mazda's $10 subscription for remote start sparks backlash after killing open source workaround via DMCA takedown (www.carscoops.com)

submitted 2 months ago by ForgottenFlux to c/technology

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Mazda recently surprised customers by requiring them to sign up for a subscription in order to keep certain services. Now, notable right-to-repair advocate Louis Rossmann is calling out the brand.

It’s important to clarify that there are two very different types of remote start we’re talking about here. The first type is the one many people are familiar with where you use the key fob to start the vehicle. The second method involves using another device like a smartphone to start the car. In the latter, connected services do the heavy lifting.

Transition to paid services

What is wild is that Mazda used to offer the first option on the fob. Now, it only offers the second kind, where one starts the car via phone through its connected services for a $10 monthly subscription, which comes to $120 a year. Rossmann points out that one individual, Brandon Rorthweiler, developed a workaround in 2023 to enable remote start without Mazda’s subscription fees.

However, according to Ars Technica, Mazda filed a DMCA takedown notice to kill that open-source project. The company claimed it contained code that violated “[Mazda’s] copyright ownership” and used “certain Mazda information, including proprietary API information.”

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I remember a time when these features were just "standard" and car makers ad campaigns all around features just being standard, making the car more enticing than their competitors.

Now I dread the idea of getting a vehicle in the future because of bull shit like this.

But fuck the consumer amirite?

[–] PlantDadManGuy 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When did customers become consumers?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm more concerned with the transformations from customers to product.

"Hey, buy our expensive shit but also give us all your data so we can also sell it to other companies."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Consumer means an individual person customer who's not a company. Otherwise customers can also be other companies.

[–] NikkiDimes 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think unlocking or starting your car from an app was ever standard

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Y'know you're likely correct and that's totally my bad. I got confused about the remote start from the key fob. I can understand the remote start from the app being a paid thing for sure, like OnStar or specifically in my case the myChevrolet app.

[–] tb_ 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can understand the remote start from the app being a paid thing for sure.

But why would it need to be? The connectivity from the app is there already, it takes the manufacturer very little to handle the occasional web request. Especially if it can be done for free through third party software.

[–] kerrigan778 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if the car needs a cellular subscription.

[–] tb_ 6 points 2 months ago

If it does then I wonder how a free tool could do it.

And if you do, indeed, need to pay for the car's cellular then I hope features such as these are included.