this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
33 points (82.4% liked)

politics

19309 readers
3409 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] InverseParallax -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Racism, much? Also not true at all, the mainland has incredibly advanced production because the majority of the world produces there.

That's not racism, they're literally the same race according to everyone including the fucking CCP!!! I know you don't have to worry about facts, but don't be so pathetically transparent.

Also I doubt you've been to China lately, saying they're on the path to Marxism is hilarious, let me guess, the new York stock exchange is the hub of western socialism too?

They've copied us in everything but name, it's a properly capitalist economy, which is why they're doing so well. They even had their own real-estate financing bubble, we're so proud.

All the Healthcare and other improvements are from the west, are you honestly trying to tell me they invented any major medical breakthroughs? Because if they had, we would have copied them, which we haven't. Not a lot of western drugs licensed off China, they stick to copying the low-end.

And SMC is still a decade behind tsmc, no matter how much they cry, they don't have euv in volume or anything on the level of euv, and they were one of the biggest consumers of Nvidia (fabbed in Taiwan with a Taiwanese founder and ceo) until they got cut off.

This is exactly the same mindless propaganda the Soviet union tried to spread, you need to get better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's not racism, they're literally the same race according to everyone including the fucking CCP!!! I know you don't have to worry about facts, but don't be so pathetically transparent.

This is exactly racism, there are numerous ethnic groups in China and Taipei.

Also I doubt you've been to China lately, saying they're on the path to Marxism is hilarious, let me guess, the new York stock exchange is the hub of western socialism too?

No, the New York Stock Exchange exists in the context of an 80%+ privatized system where the bourgeoisie control the state.

They've copied us in everything but name, it's a properly capitalist economy, which is why they're doing so well. They even had their own real-estate financing bubble, we're so proud.

I am once again asking you to explain why an economy that is over 50% publicly owned and managed, around 10% cooperatively managed, and the remaing private sector has CPC control, is Capitalist. Read Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism. You haven't read Marx, Engels, Lenin, Mao, or Deng, that much is obvious, but surely you can read a 20 minute article, right?

All the Healthcare and other improvements are from the west, are you honestly trying to tell me they invented any major medical breakthroughs? Because if they had, we would have copied them, which we haven't. Not a lot of western drugs licensed off China, they stick to copying the low-end.

Yes, they have invented tons of medical breakthroughs. The West is interested in profit above all else. This is western chauvanism.

And SMC is still a decade behind tsmc, no matter how much they cry, they don't have euv in volume or anything on the level of euv, and they were one of the biggest consumers of Nvidia (fabbed in Taiwan with a Taiwanese founder and ceo) until they got cut off.

And yet SMC is gaining on TSMC.

This is exactly the same mindless propaganda the Soviet union tried to spread, you need to get better.

You have never read Marx or any Marxist, why are you pretending you're an authority on Socialism? It's ridiculous cosplay.

[–] InverseParallax 0 points 3 months ago

This is exactly racism, there are numerous ethnic groups in China and Taipei.

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2022/01/29/2003772257

Last month, Ko said that the goal of the forum is to jointly build the “Chinese dream,” as “the two sides of the Taiwan Strait belong to one family” and “people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are Chinese of the same race and speak the same language,” a Central News Agency report said.

They are the same race, and I am tired of your pathetic at a racist view in what is clearly a political issue, that's bigotry, plain and simple!

I am once again asking you to explain why an economy that is over 50% publicly owned and managed, around 10% cooperatively managed, and the remaing private sector has CPC control, is Capitalist. Read Socialism Developed China, Not Capitalism.

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/international-relations-security/what-future-chinas-private-sector

Private firms contribute approximately 60% of China’s GDP, 70% of its innovative capacity, 80% of urban employment and 90% of new jobs.

I read das capital it had value as a lens to interpret historical narratives.

It's also 150 years old, and every attempt to follow it's principles has ended in complete disaster, often starvation or other forms of genocide, because while it models the collective selfishness of the rich, it WHOLLY fails to model the individual, as his focus on the collective (which was quite popular in the 1800s, as a vague attempt to "Darwinize" and model sociology in terms of group motives) collapses instantly when confronted with modern systems analysis and game theory which shows exactly how people actually behave in groups, selfishly and often without thought of others.

This is why it fails, every time, at the simplest attempt.

You need something that takes into account individualism, which Marx was too early for, if he lived today perhaps he could understand. You're acting like something we tried to figure out before we even imagined the concept of DNA is relevant to our modern world.

Zizek is actually the closest to someone able to understand Marxism in a modern context, but Marx himself is as obsolete as a telegraph machine.

And yet SMIC is gaining on TSMC.

Yes, the founder is Taiwanese (fled the PLA), they bought Chiang Shangyi and other actual talent (in hindsight, maybe you're right about race, the Taiwanese do seem racially superior to mainlanders in every way), and bought the same machines from ASML and others.

It's like me saying I'm gaining on Messi because I got off the couch and bought a ball.