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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that what has happened to the storage market historically?

[–] CleoTheWizard 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not at all. The price of storage has plummeted so much that most video games comfortably use ~100GB for large games and don’t care because even SSD storage is extremely cheap.

If you don’t believe me, here’s a post on Reddit that shows it off pretty well.

[–] Maggoty 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's two ways to take that statement. The price of a hard drive will remain the same, or the price per memory unit will remain the same. Price per hard drive remains largely the same. Price per unit of memory drops.

The only exception here is SSDs are slowly dropping in price to meet magnetic disk drives.

[–] CleoTheWizard 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interpreted the other way, I don’t think that makes sense because on the whole storage has always gotten cheaper with time. Hard drives may cost the same, but they’re larger capacity so really this would only work as an argument if hard drive storage space stayed the same and prices remained the same for consumers but went down for manufacturers.

Also there’s a lot of competition in the space similar to other chips so I don’t see how a company making NAND or platters can afford to sit on their hands like that. The whole point of drive innovation right now is to drive the price per GB down for B2B sales. And that usually translates well to consumer sales too.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's business logic. Consumer logic is that when things get cheaper they should actually be cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The actual shells and manufacturing costs aren't going down meaningfully. Giving you more for the same price is how consumers benefit the most. Especially because consumer demands for storage (among people willing to buy any, at least) keep going up and there isn't a big market for HDDs that are half the price but 1/4 of the storage.

[–] CleoTheWizard 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They do get cheaper but the cheaper ones don’t get made because they aren’t worth anything anymore. Like sure you can get a 500GB HDD which used to be a moderately priced option and is now basically trash or free. The prices go down, but the key is that consumers no longer want the old thing either.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 months ago

Actually those are still available. And I will admit if anyone tried to get me to pay 100 dollars for one now I would probably laugh them out of the room.

[–] linearchaos 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not exactly sure what that chart is using for data sources. Historically every couple of years I've bought whatever goes on sale for around $200 and added it to my unraid.

I was able to pick up exos 14s a couple of years ago. And they're still not back down to $200.

[–] CleoTheWizard 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It looks like it depends on the drive size but also I think the pandemic has leveled this out in recent years. Some additional data I found by BackBlaze shows a bit more of the story though they have changed their drive sizes which leads to a more interesting graph.

[–] linearchaos 2 points 2 months ago

That looks like I expected it to. Inflation probably doesn't help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, nowadays a 100Gb game is small. Games are easily 200+ for the AAA section.

[–] chiliedogg 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but modern consoles come with as little as 512 gigs of storage.