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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is 100% to make the city unwalkable

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you can't walk down a sidewalk with cars going by at 30mph then there's something wrong with you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

30 mph is almost 50 km/h. In most of Europe the default maximum speed limit inside of populated areas is 50 km/h.

Default meaning artillery roads like this one can and almost always do have higher limits than 50, but the defsult maximum suddenly becoming the minimum makes no sense.

A road that isn't physically barricaded from foot trafic akin to a highway has no reason to have a minimum speed limit over 15 mph (30 km/h), if at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

artillery roads

Judging by the pot holes, that is?

I know I know, making fun of autocorrect typos is such a vein form of humor.

[–] Kayday 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

30mph (48kmh) is the minimum, cars will also be going faster than that. Also, people need to cross the street, not just walk alongside it. Regardless, whether drivers or pedestrians are the issue, accidents happen. They are more likely to happen, and more likely to be fatal as vehicle speed increases.

From the Institute for Road Safety Research, page 2:
"According to an overview of recent studies (Rósen et al., 2011): at a collision speed of 20 km/h nearly all pedestrians survive a crash with a passenger car; about 90% survive at a collision speed of 40 km/h, at a collision speed of 80 km/h the number of survivors is less than 50%, and at a collision speed of 100 km/h only 10% of the pedestrians survive."

Areas with minimum speeds of 30mph in areas with pedestrians accept that at least 1 in 10 will die. This is easily reduced to negligible fatalities by having lower speed limits. Not doing so says we care more about saving some of the drivers' time than the lives of pedestrians.