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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I know we had that discussion in the last few days, but

  • if Lemmy instances ranks are high enough to influence the Reddit ranking, then couldn't be just increase the instances rankings by adding several links to them in a lot of posts?
  • if not, then isn't the whole thing useless?
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

SEO ranking is relative. IE: if reddit and lemmy have the same post title, the reddit one will show up higher since it has a higher domain authority.

I think this is also the main reason why youtube videos show up as top search results instead of the same video on youtube-alternative sites.

I think your previous question was clearer, so I'll just link to it: https://sh.itjust.works/post/25867272/14197383

My response:

I’m no SEO expert, but search engines penalize websites for gaming the system. I’ve already read someone suggest that Google is not sure what to do with the fediverse because it already looks like spam, and that may be why it doesn’t show up often in search results. That’s beyond my knowledge though.

[–] muntedcrocodile 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weve put ourselves in a bit of a pickle with seo. Cos either google continues to treat us like spam gaming the system or they dont. If they dont we will effectively be gaming the system. What would be nice is an easy way for engined to identify fedi content and treat it as a single site for ranking purposes. Then again fuck search engines we need something foss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lemmy adds a rel="canonical" link to every post. Google should be able to understand that and make every page with the same canonical link go to the same page. I think other sites who have many domains with the same content, like medium, do the same thing.

[–] muntedcrocodile 1 points 1 month ago

Had a look at the relevent github issue and it seems that it simply back links each individual post to its originating instance so we unfortunatly dont get combined domain ranking for the fediverse as a whole just each post.

[–] dual_sport_dork 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Interesting, re: the spam theory.

I do know that some of my dinkum posts on here are among the first page results for whatever the object in question is, but I'm not sure if that's due to Google somehow deciding it's a highly relevant match or if it's just because some of this crap is so damn niche that there isn't any other content on it.

For example, this, where I'm result #2 only after the Amazon product page. Or this, where I'm #7. Also #7 here. For this I'm result #2 which is above Walmart's listing for their own product.

Okay, okay, this one is almost a Googlewhack, but I'm occupying both spots #5 and #6 even if you just search for the alleged "manufacturer's" name. Admittedly, out of only 6 results to begin with. If you add "knife" to the query I rise to position #4.

...And yet others don't appear in search results at all. So I can't say I have any idea how the fuck Google's search results work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think that has to do with your cookies. Your first one, I see wikipedia at #2, then jstor, then another site, then amazon again. There's a lemmy.world post at #7.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know a lot about the fediverse right? Do you know what the deal is with the crossposting feature? https://sh.itjust.works/post/26060607/14239219

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'll jump to that post and answer there