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[–] small44 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't mention tunnels, I mentioned human shields. Russia is using similar excuses as Israel. https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/4/3/why-we-need-to-challenge-russias-human-shields-narrative Don't try to feel us you know really well the amalek reference by natanyaho and many other statements https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/database-exposes-500-instances-of-israeli-incitement-to-genocide-in-gaza-16537146

Not only the number are underestimated due to the collapse of health system but genocide was never about killing the majority or all members of an ethnic group etc. Israel action fit at least two examples of action defining genocide which are causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group and deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-palestinians-concept-paper-1.7015576

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2024/03/27/gaza-is-on-the-brink-of-a-man-made-famine

https://www.npr.org/2023/12/03/1216200754/gaza-heritage-sites-destroyed-israel

When resistance group committed atrocities in the past like the may may did it make the colonizers the good guys?

[–] JustZ -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hamas actually uses human shields, though, and rewards people for war crimes, such as not wearing uniforms or kidnapping civilians.

[–] small44 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] JustZ -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah a few Israeli soldiers have used human shields occasionally. It's a crime in Israel and people in the IDF get charged for it.

Hamas does it as a matter of daily policy, with hundreds of thousands of people, voluntary and involuntary. What kind of bullshit whataboutism is this?

In the first days of the war, Hamas literally spread rumors online that the evacuation orders were a hoax and that everyone should stay in their houses, that nobody should leave North Gaza, or Gaza City.

[–] small44 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] snek 2 points 2 months ago

"Echoing his leader, Major General Igor Konashenkov, chief spokesman for the Russian Ministry of Defence, stated in a news conference on February 28 that “the armed forces of the Russian Federation strike only at military targets”. Discussing the capital, Kyiv, he added that “the leadership of Ukraine and the authorities of the city, having announced a curfew, are persuading the residents of the capital to stay in their homes”. This, he concluded, “once again proves that the Kyiv regime uses the residents of the city as a ‘human shield’ for the nationalists who have deployed artillery units and military equipment in residential areas of the capital”."

"Then on March 3, Moscow accused Ukrainian authorities of holding a group of 6,000 Indian students and other foreign nationals as “human shields”. Indian authorities themselves denied the claim. A couple of days later, Putin declared that “the neo-Nazis” were obstructing the creation of humanitarian corridors requested by the Ukrainian government to evacuate civilians trapped in the line of fire, claiming “the militants” were keeping the potential evacuees as human shields."

[–] snek 1 points 2 months ago

So if Israel had any kind of military base near civilian areas, would that mean it's using Israeli citizens as human shields?