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[–] FlyingSquid 123 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm sure none of you need me to tell you this, but I feel the need to say it anyway- Trump brought up Hitler and Napoleon being unable to defeat Russia.

It's really fucking different when you are being invaded. Than when you are the invader.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Someone told Trump those things happened. He has no grasp on any of the details.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I wonder what his response would be if someone told him Poland never surrendered to Hitler either, moved it's government and attacked back and took back their home. Thereby Polands record against Hitler would be 1-0. It also would indicate they survived the Soviet Unions invasion of Poland as well.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Poland's leaders also never signed a non-aggression pact with Hitler. They knew better.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 15 points 3 days ago

The Soviets were complete jackasses to their allies. For example, they refused to allow American bombers to launch raids on Japan from eastern Russia, forcing the Allies to do a brutal island-hopping campaign to get them within range.

Then, when a few B-29s were too damaged to make the long flight back to the island and diverted to Russia, they confiscated the planes and imprisoned their crews until the end of the war.

Then, after the war, they dismantled two of the planes so they could figure out how to build a good airplane and claimed it as their own and called it the Tu-4.

Oh, and they also threw Andrei Tupolev into a gulag because he couldn't meet Stalin's insane demands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Nah this would just unlock a new trove of racist tropes for him

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 3 days ago

I know, I just had to point out why it was so stupid or it would have killed me.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Napoleon and Hitler couldn't but Emperor Meiji (1905), Kaiser Wilhelm (1917), President Piłsudski (1920) and the Mujahideen (1980s) managed just fine, just to mention the 20th century.

[–] Valmond 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

IIRC even sweden kicked some ruski butt.

Edit: Finland for sure! My memory about sweden was that it happened way before WW2.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago