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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The blame needs to lie with the aggressors, which in this case is Iran. People see Palestinians dying and assume that Israel is just beating them up because they're bullies, when it's Iran that's doing the bullying via terrorist groups and Israel is just fighting back.

Diplomacy won't solve the issue, because Iran doesn't want a diplomatic solution and is happy to keep handing out guns and rockets to disillusioned young men just to weaken Israel for as long as they want.

[–] OccamsTeapot 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

So do you think Israel should go to war with Iran? Or are you happy with innocent Palestinians and Lebanese paying the price instead?

But I will say, when Israel does something, the blame lies with Israel. The blood of the dead is on Israel's hands and it will never wash off.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I think Iran should stop funding terrorists.

If you want to get into who has who's blood on their hands, you've got a very large history book to read. I don't think there is a single non-island country (and even some of those have it) that doesn't have a history steeped in humans killing other humans over the land.

[–] OccamsTeapot 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think Iran should stop funding terrorists.

They won't. So yet again, do you think Israel should go to war with Iran? Why waste time fighting proxies?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Nukes are a thing, that's why all big countries fight proxy wars now. Ukraine, Israel, Afghanistan... All proxies.

[–] OccamsTeapot 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So because Iran and Israel have nukes, Israel can't directly fight their enemy, and that means they have to keep playing whack a mole with proxies, like, forever? All while the "collateral damage" and "accidents" are mounting and more and more innocent people die?

There will always be new "moles" popping up, eliminating Hamas creates Hamas 2 and even if you somehow eliminate Hezbollah there will be Hezbollah 2: maximum bollah. Then you will have to fight them and there will be more whoopsies and more kids end up in bodybags. And then I hope you're ready because since we're not fighting the actual enemy but we successfully stopped Hamas 2, guess what we have now?

Seriously. The only result of this is death and the most likely people to die are innocent Palestinian, Lebanese and Israeli citizens.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You realize that the US, Russia, and China have been fighting this way and killing millions of civilians for like 60+ years now right?

Ukraine for example is the US vs Russia/China.

Afghanistan was the US vs Russia a few times.

The whole point of fighting somewhere else is that fewer of your own civilians die.

[–] OccamsTeapot 1 points 1 month ago

Uh huh. So no defense of what's happening, just "that's the way it is." Well great. No problem then

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