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I'm just a newb when it comes to high grade keyboards, but these things look wild, and I kind of want to try one.

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[–] someguy3 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Glove 80 keyboard:

There's also a wide world of alt letter layouts.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I would really love to try something like that, but I don't want to sink money into it just to realize I hate it.
Edit: 400$ for the Glove 80. As much as I love the idea, that's a no for me

[–] callcc 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Got a split keyboard (ergodox ez) just to notice that all the special keys are very tough to reach and there are no F-keys. All in all not such a great experience. The split part is good though if you type a loooot anf if you have wrist rests.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand. I have an ergodox moonlander and while it's true there is no dedicated button for Function keys, that's what the layers are for. It's kind of the point of a configurable customizable keyboard.

So for me I have all my special symbols under my left hand while my right hand holds a special key. Takes some getting used to, but once I had practiced the special keys are actually closer than before because they're all the normal keys. Similarly I have arrow keys under the keys labeled 'hjkl' when another key is held. My Function Keys are all accessible with special key and the number keys.

It takes some tweaking and tuning to figure out the layouts you want, but the whole point of a keyboard like this is that you can tune it to be whatever you need it to be. Now, if you don't like to tinker and just want something out of the box, I get that, but even the default config has function keys, I think. Maybe you just didn't read about how it works?

[–] mayo 2 points 3 months ago

I had a moonlander for a while and I liked it. I think I put space on the main body since the little appendages were too far for my itty thumbs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Look into DIY keyboards you can get PCBs created of the keyboards you like the look of for pretty cheap nowadays. You just need to be willing to solder, there's not many small bits for keyboards so it's not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I love my Glove80, had it for about a year now and couldn't be happier.

For anyone interested in alt layouts, https://getreuer.info/posts/keyboards/alt-layouts/index.html is one of the best introductions out there. Also https://lemmy.world/c/ergomechkeyboards is a nice resource on fancy keyboards.

[–] chemical_cutthroat 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I hate it because I love the way it looks, but I could never use one.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I can't use a split keyboard because of the way I've taught myself to touch-type. My fingers move around too much. On the other hand, I type around ~90 wpm (mostly using two fingers) so I win something or other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Big hands crew represent

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can re-teach yourself.

Touch typing is like learning different languages. Just because you learn a new one doesn't mean you forget the first.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 months ago

I'm sure I can but why would I?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

This is true. I've gotten to the point where I can now type QWERTY and Colemak-dh on a standard, ortholinear or ortho columnar keyboards with no issues.

[–] Murkbeard 3 points 3 months ago

I had the same problem, and never cracked touch typing, because my brain kept going back to the old, faster way.

I finally cracked it by learning a different layout while only touch typing. Maybe that's a way to go if you want to get there?

[–] konalt 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Same. I learned to type without the whole "home rows" method and with some exceptions like shift (and A for some reason?) I type with two fingers per hand. Typing at 150wpm consistently is very fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I touch type with fingers on the home row with a slight drive and my max is 110 wpm, average about 90.

I'm very impressed.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] konalt 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks! On a bad day (or when tipsy, I use typeracer as a breathalyser) that goes away. Practice makes perfect

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Can you type blindly when you don't have home rows?

[–] konalt 2 points 3 months ago

As in without looking at the keyboard? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I have this one, and never got used to it. I should try again.

[–] hakunawazo 1 points 3 months ago

As if Tony Hawk designs keyboards.