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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i think you are a weak person

You sure, you're against MAGA? You sound exactly like them

[–] dubious -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

no i just realize that you have to fight back. in a war, both sides use weapons. are you going to throw water balloons because you don't want to be like your opponent? wise up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fight back ≠ maintain a list of everyone who expresses something I disagree with so I can punish them in the future.

[–] dubious -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not exactly "fighting back" when they're not fighting you now, and won't be fighting you in the future when you make use of your list.

[–] dubious -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but they are making lists. turnabout is fair play.

look, you've already made it abundantly clear that you are a weak pacifist, so i doubt you're going to make a point that has any influence over the way i think. that's why i mentioned that there's no point to us debating any of this. if our values don't align, you'll just be appealing to virtues that have no merit in my value system. do you understand what i'm saying?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but they are making lists. turnabout is fair play.

Who exactly is they? You sure everyone in that list has a list in return? Or are you just throwing them all together because you're incapable of seeing shades of grey?

no merit in my value system

Yeah, because your value system aligns more with MAGAts than with us

[–] dubious 0 points 2 months ago

you don't get to tell me what my value system is. it's mine. i don't have all day to explain how the world works to you.

[–] dubious -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, because your value system aligns more with MAGAts than with us

no. my METHODS align more with them. my values are completely different. conservatives are the enemy. me thinks you enjoy virtue signaling more than effectively dismantling the current systems that produce suffering.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

no. my METHODS align more with them

"I don't believe the same things they do, I just act in a way that is indistinguishable from them!"

"...Also the way they act is bad."

" It's okay when I do it though..."

effectively dismantling the current systems that produce suffering.

How does your list effectively dismantle those systems? Because it sounds like the purpose of the list is for after you have "won" and will be used to create more suffering.

[–] dubious 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you've lost sight of the big picture and possibly never had it to begin with.

i am trying to bridge the gap to a world where we use science to better the lives of all living beings in sustainable ways. conservatives are the road block. i have solutions. you don't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

i have solutions.

And what exactly are your solutions? I know step 1 is to maintain a list of everyone people accuse of being conservative, what is step 2? I wouldn't want to speculate and put words in your mouth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

but they are making lists. turnabout is fair play.

Are the people you are putting on your list the ones making lists?

I agree that anyone who is actively making a list of people they disagree with politically, with the obvious threat of punishing those people in the future, should themselves be made public and their attempts at terrorism brought to light. This also includes you.

How is your list being vetted? What prevents someone from adding you to the MAGAt list?

look, you've already made it abundantly clear that you are a weak pacifist

Right, I'm so weak that I don't go away when you try to push me...

so i doubt you're going to make a point that has any influence over the way i think.

You're not having a private conversation here that I'm intruding on. You are posting publicly trying to sway other people's opinions, so I am going to reply pointing out how horrendous what you're arguing for is. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm providing a different argument to the people you are trying to convince.

If you want to try to defend your argument you are welcome to do so. If you want to live in an echo chamber of only people who agree with you, you are free to block me. Just be aware that I will still be pointing out the glaring flaws in arguments after you do.

[–] dubious 1 points 2 months ago

oh sure. i get it. i reply to other people for the sake of a third party reader also. fair enough.