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[–] iopq 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

People are not growing poorer, they are growing richer

https://www.bls.gov/charts/usual-weekly-earnings/usual-weekly-earnings-over-time-total-men-women.htm

People make more money now than before the pandemic, even inflation adjusted

[–] hark 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Inflation adjusted looking pretty flat and that's if you trust their optimistic inflation calculations that likely underestimate it. Housing, education, and health care greatly outpace inflation btw, but hey, at least TVs are cheaper.

[–] iopq 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Source on inflation being underestimated?

Also if something like housing grows in price faster than inflation, then something else has to grow slower than inflation for the inflation number to be what it is. No matter what category you pick that grew faster than inflation, it doesn't matter to the overall increase in prices by definition

For example, grocery prices have increased slower than inflation. It doesn't actually make my argument any stronger, since it just means other things increased faster

[–] hark 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Grocery prices is actually a great example of official inflation numbers being underestimated. My grocery bill has increased by a minimum of 50% (and more like 100%) since the pandemic, but official numbers put it at about 25%. They have a basket of goods that they base their numbers off of, but that basket changes and my suspicion is that they change it in a way to make the numbers look better than they really are. In my case, I've been buying the same stuff all along (i.e. mainly simple non-processed ingredients) with modifications only to try to reduce my bill (e.g. I haven't bought any eggs over $2 a dozen, which means I haven't bought eggs in a long time).

I sarcastically pointed out "at least TVs are cheaper" because yes, there are categories where some things are cheaper, but the far more important categories of housing, education, food, and health care have experienced ridiculous amounts of inflation.

[–] iopq 1 points 2 months ago

I bought the same things from the same store in 2017 as today. The $5.99 yogurt is now $7.99

There's two different brands, 4 lbs and 5 lbs and they have the same price

Other things went up similarly, like half a gallon of organic milk was $4.99 and now it's $5.99

I did not see a single thing that went up 50%, not one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Don’t come here with your data and upset our dearly held opinions.