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[–] someguy3 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

And half of voters are voting for it.

I just listened to a "undecided voters deliberate" and I want to pull my fucking hair out.

(The only redeeming point is these weren't undecided as in they change their vote all the time, they were lifelong Republican voters who are now undecided. Still bad.)

[–] cybersandwich 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But that's still huge. Theyve likely grown up surrounded by conservatives their whole lives. Conservative talk radio, then fox news, oreily factor every night, Sean hannity, glen beck, and now modern social media and YouTube has them getting pumped with ridiculous echo chamber bs.

The fact they are "undecided" is pretty fucking damning for Republicans and conservatives.

They are stepping back from an entire world view and even an "identity" they've had their whole life. That's huge.

It's fine to be frustrated by it but it's still a good thing.

Edit: the good thing is that they are now undecided. Not that half of voters are still voting for the orange turd.

[–] FlashMobOfOne -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I would argue that 99% of voters are voting for it.

A good example is Democrats' response to Roe vs Wade repeal. That is to say, except for fundraising, there wasn't one. They raked in a cool $80 million though: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-us-supreme-court-elections-campaigns-8a6e3db27082cc212e9e5183b25e7c32.

When one side actively perpetrates fascism and the other side does nothing to stop it, the difference in rhetoric means absolutely nothing to me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

That's oversimplification. Just because you vote Democrat doesn't mean you support all of the policies. There are many practical reasons that come into play.

And your response to Roe is inaccurate. There has been a tremendous amount of pressure in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade. I suppose that many Republicans who lose will do so largely because of Roe. I recall the Dems floating a plan to revise how SCOTUS is staffed, too. It probably won't pass, but it's exactly the kind of thing you are overlooking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Most Americans support ranker choice voting, universal healthcare, paid maternity leave, freedom of choice, etc.

The people aren't the problem, the system is. Our corrupt 2 party system is destroying the US. The only way to save this country is to replace it with a modern multi-party proportional representation system like the system we helped the Germans create after ww2.

[–] someguy3 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What are you on about, she said she wants Roe back. This just reeks of b b b but dems bad!!

[–] FlashMobOfOne -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So did Joe Biden.

The problem is he did nothing meaningful to restore it. My point is simple: It doesn't matter what you say if you're not going to use the power you have in order to make the change.

[–] someguy3 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It essentially wasn't overturned until he lost the House of Reps. They need House majority, senate majority, presidency, and get rid of the filibuster (which wasn't going to happen with Manchin). All 4 to pass that legislation. It's going to be tough to get them all.

But you don't care about any of that. Your ~~point~~ misinformation is simple: B b b b b but Dems bad!1!!

[–] FlashMobOfOne -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The ACA and the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act were both passed with a simple majority.

Put simply, you are incorrect. Hard things are possible if a president is willing to work for the; Sadly, Biden was not.

[–] someguy3 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Other things took simple majority, therefore this would take a simple majority too? Outstanding logic. By that logic no one has every filibustered anything, right? If Dobbs was something the GOP wanted, they would have filibustered it.

lol so thanks for exposing your goal of misinformation. I see no point in continuing to rebut your mental gymnastics, so ciao.

*ACA was passed 60-39, supermajority.

[–] FlashMobOfOne -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unlike you, I won't accept that it's okay to do nothing because something is challenging.

[–] someguy3 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Who said I accept nothing? Simply because I lay out what needs to happen, while you live in la la land of "president just needs to want it". Why am I bothering with your nonsense replies, you need to do some reading. Ciao.