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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by jordanlund to c/politics
 

"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that 'some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest' of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called 'social fascists.'

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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[–] Professorozone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ummm there definitely is evidence against you. First in our current system the president needs Congress to get things done, but we've seen the plans for Project 2025 to get around a lot of this.

Second, we've seen with the freedom caucus that a small group of congressmen can wield a lot of power.

Third, I think we definitely can expect a very different Trump in a second term versus his first term and he definitely HAS expressed an interest in this with all of his dictation envy too become Fuhrer and worse there is a large portion of the population that is content to be rolled under a Trump dictatorship.

If any of this is true, it should lead to less power for congressmen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

First in our current system the president needs Congress to get things done

There is quite a lot that the President can do independently using Executive Orders. Even tasks that, on paper, require congressional approval can be subverted, and you can look at the US's record of entering undeclared wars as evidence of that.

Beyond that, see what I already said about how there's no such thing as an autocrat.

Second, we’ve seen with the freedom caucus that a small group of congressmen can wield a lot of power

These are people who would do the best in an imaginary Fuhrer Trump political machine. Think of it like getting promoted to a bigger, more powerful Freedom Caucus.

Third, I think we definitely can expect a very different Trump in a second term versus his first term and he definitely HAS expressed an interest in this with all of his dictation envy too become Fuhrer and worse there is a large portion of the population that is content to be rolled under a Trump dictatorship.

People have been talking about him admiring dictators before he was elected and all throughout his first term. There's nothing new here, no evidence that suggests something has changed.

I promise you it's just hysteria. So there's a chance of something beneficial happening in this conversation, I want you to just take note of this conviction you have that Trump will be Hitler and then, if he is elected, just remember it as he blunders his way through being racist and doing war crimes just the same as he did before with no particular change besides Vance leading a new rhetorical tact.

No, I won't be doing a mirror version of this exercise. I'm a communist, so if I'm wrong and he's a neo-neo-Nazi, I get the wall anyway and it's no harm done.