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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by jordanlund to c/politics
 

"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that 'some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest' of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called 'social fascists.'

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That’s a neat way to say “being too lazy to actually make a difference, but I don’t want to feel bad about it”.

I don't believe the way forward is by passing laws in a system that cannot be reformed into a good one, so it doesn't make sense to judge my praxis by passing laws within said system.

I'll just add that if you aren't interested in passing laws you should vote for Harris if only to annoy the Right.

I think this right here illustrates your political views perfectly, "owning the chuds" is more important than actually working towards progress.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t believe the way forward is by passing laws

Name one piece of actual progress you've made. One would be nice.

You probably love to rail at Obamacare and point out that it was originally created by Mitt Romney.

Maybe the ACA wasn't perfect, but 40 million people have some health insurance who wouldn't have had it without Obama and the Dems.

What have you done that's helped anyone?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What on Earth is this strawman tangent? Touch grass.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What have you done that’s helped anyone?

It's a simple question.

Either your way of doing things has produced results, or it hasn't.

Talk all you want about 'strawman' and I'll point to 40 million people with some kind of health care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're still attacking a strawman, lmao. Again, touch grass.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let's turn it around.

Explain why me asking you to produce actual results is a 'strawman.'

You keep saying it, so you must have an idea of what it means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You probably love to rail at Obamacare and point out that it was originally created by Mitt Romney.

Maybe the ACA wasn't perfect, but 40 million people have some health insurance who wouldn't have had it without Obama and the Dems.

I have never railed at Obamacare, nor do I point out that it was created by Romney. You spent the next several comments working off of that same false assumption.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

Explain why me asking you to produce actual results is a ‘strawman.’

No, I asked you to provide some actual results you've produced.

I cited the ACA as an example of something that has produced results.

You still haven't shown anything like actual progress.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage -1 points 2 months ago

I'm sure your outside organizing will be much easier under the "let's arrest or deport everyone that does agree with us, burn all the books with ideas we don't agree with, and you'll never have to vote again" candidate.