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(This post is referring to tiktok, instagram reels, youtube shorts type content)

So it’s no secret that for half a decade now we’ve had short form video content get increasingly popularised. To the point where your uncle probably watches them on some platform and so does your 6 year old.

Now in terms of addictiveness, privacy falling through the roof, advertising down your throat, etc. we’ve reached new records. But that isn’t what this post is about.

I never used this format much, except in 2020 during the pandemic, but I can’t help but notice when I do. Even if I make a brand new VPN’d account for it. Every 5-10th post or so wil be some kind of culture war propaganda.

The kind of stuff that made me an edgy right wing bigot as a teenager because I got influenced by it on youtube. Luckily, I grew and changed. Unfortunately, many former friends, not so much.

On a completely new account you’ll get bombarded with videos like:

  • “This is why women NEED real MEN”
  • “How to piss of a cyclist”
  • ”If a climate activist is blocking the road, you should be allowed to run over them”
  • ”When MEN were thrown a grenade, they reacted quickly, WOMEN got confused and scared. That’s why we NEED men in the army”
  • Wholesome looking video — homophobic caption: “This is why children need both a mum and a dad”

These are all examples I got today when I decided to make completely new accounts on a new device with a VPN. I tried youtube shorts and tiktok for this and scrolled 20ish videos on each without liking anything.

It scares me how much there is a strong rightward shift amongst the younger population. To the point where 18-24’s in recent german elections have voted the most for the borderline neo-nazi AFD party. I know these parties are by far the most active and very popular on tiktok.

I know to some people these examples might seem anoying but trivial. But you are forgetting how impressionable children and teenagers are. There really is this thing called the alt-right pipeline. One very specific example which impacted me at a younger age, was you start with “mad karen” type videos, then after a couple you get recommended “mad SJW” videos, I think you see where I’m going with this, after a while you’re on “feminism debunked” and watching peterson/crowder/shapiro. I know many childhood friends who went down this pipeline and became insufferably racist bigot adults.

I wonder what others think on this?

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[–] Today 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've somehow managed to completely miss all of that. I rarely see any right wing content anywhere. I almost never watch videos filmed in portrait rather than landscape. Maybe that has saved me?

[–] shalafi 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I watch lots of gun related content on YouTube, no right-wing crap to be seen. Guess they know me?

[–] clif 1 points 3 months ago

Same here for the most part. Every now and then I'll see something recommended that may be on the edge but I'm not clicking it to find out.

I should note that I'm not talking about shorts so I guess I'm off topic here. They wouldn't stop nagging me so installed a plugin to permanently hide it :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'm the same way. I'm still on twitter and there's no such content on my feed except for the occasional post that gets thru. I simply mute those accounts and if it was a retweet I either unfollow the user or turn of retweets from them. It's not like that's being forced down my throat. In my experience social media algorithms do listen to the users and when you tell it you're not interested in something it stops feeding you that.