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Aside from racism. I mean economically/socially, what issues does too much immigration cause?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know there are other countries tries right?

A lot of european countries are only a few million people...

[–] jpreston2005 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

are European countries regularly taking in migrant populations equal to their countries population?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why does it need to be equal to population?

I'm not saying that all immigration is bad, but rather that above a certain level it gets difficult to integrate people. For european countries this is a much lower number than the US, since populations are much lower. At the same time, there are many more refugees than in the US.

It's a genuine challenge here in Vienna, for instance, at the moment because recent immigrants make up a large percentage of school kids, who often have few language skills, tend to be very religious, and have extremely conservative views on things like feminism and gay rights. Unfortunately, their views tend to self-reinforce rather than become milder over time due to being the majority view among their peers/in their school/community.

You can't really blame the kids, obviously they are just a product of the culture they grew up in, however you also can't just ignore the issue. There isn't any mechanism for preventing immigrants groups from clustering in specific areas (and I don't think most people would be in favor of anything that draconian)

In an ideal world, maybe there is a perfect solution, but the reality is that the current system is facing a huge challenge. Like it or not, this is directly tied to immigration rates.

[–] jpreston2005 -1 points 1 month ago

Why does it need to be equal to population?

Because I was responding to the previous commenter that cited specifically those numbers.

I get what you're saying, that other cultures are not as tolerant, and when said culture pops up in a previously tolerant area, it can cause tensions. To that I'd say that we have a system of government enforcing laws in a uniform manner across a region precisely because not everyone agrees uniformly. You can't strip away the freedom to be wrong, you can only enforce rules that support equity, safety, and inclusion, and do so especially within local populations that seem to eschew it.

But also, not all migrants are intolerant. So assuming that they 1. are, and 2. will stay that way, is a xenophobic dog whistle.