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Really you don't need to read more than one chart:

If you vote for anyone other than Harris, you're voting for Trump:

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[–] blazera 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're saying the only way to get rid of the two party system is to continue to exclusively support the two parties

[–] billiam0202 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the sooner you swallow that pill, the sooner you'll realize that politics is not about emotions, it about strategy, and voting for third-parties isn't a winning one.

[–] blazera 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You say emotions, I say evidence based. With over a century of results of voting exclusively for one of two parties. The result being we're more deeply ingrained in two parties than ever before.

Lets say we vote for democrats again, what are you willing to claim will be different next election with regards to moving past the two party system?

[–] billiam0202 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

evidence-based

And all the evidence shows that, as the US is currently, voting for third-parties hurts you far more by allowing the major party that least represents you to win. You can't claim to adhere to "evidence" if you don't acknowledge that fact.

Also, I'm going to let you in on a little secret: I don't want any of the current third parties to win. None of them are serious beyond being spoilers for the major parties- they don't host voter drives, they don't campaign for local and state elections, they don't do anything for four years then show up and expect to have the same shot as the major parties.

I'm perfectly happy voting for a party to win who agrees with 60% of what I want than getting 0% of what I want, because it's the rational choice to make.

[–] blazera 1 points 2 months ago

as the US is currently

This is where we're losing eachother. I dont think youre understanding that I am advocating for changes from how the US is currently.