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[–] kadu 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is this a regional thing? None of my Samsung phones (Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S10 and Galaxy S23) ever installed apps like these automatically. They did come with Microsoft apps bundled in, and I believe Facebook too, but after deactivating them they never came back. Never games though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

yes specifically a us or canadian carrier thing

[–] kadu 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ah... So not a Samsung thing, but a carrier thing. I should have guessed, carriers are disgusting. Nowadays it's rare where I live, but not so long ago they even got in the middle of Android updates and replaced the bootlogo with their own branding, I even know of some devices stuck on old Android versions because while the official release is available the carrier never bothered shipping the update.

I also dislike how SIM cards run independent from the main CPU and can spawn their little Java applets whenever they want, my carrier used to randomly display ads as full prompts that got in front of any other app with highest priority using the "SIM toolkit" feature of Android, which you can't disable. Only stopped after I gave them a call claiming if I see another one of those I'd report them to the consumer rights watchdog from my region.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. The only time I'd be ok with my carrier doing that would be if I didn't have to pay them a single fucking dime. You don't get to double dip, carriers. You're already over charging for data use.

[–] glockenspiel 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’d argue that it is a Samsung thing. They let carriers do this. Just like they host ads in the notification shade and first party apps in some markets.

To Samsung. One of the largest companies in the world. Samsung chooses to allow this because they get money for it from the carriers.

[–] GalacticBagelHole 3 points 1 year ago

Let's also not forget Samsung are the ones who give you the privilege of getting built-in ads on your expensive new TV. Ads and bloatware absolutely are part of Samsung's business model.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Apple doesn't allow it.

[–] Mindlight 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm pretty sure it's a Samsung thing. I'm located in Sweden and they've done this on my unlocked (not locked to a specific operator) Samsung phones ( S5, S8, S20 and S20FE 5G).

[–] roht 1 points 1 year ago

I also have a S20 FE and can attest to the bloatware they install with each software update.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I ordered mine directly from the manufacturer and it doesn't install stuff. However, I also declined to agree to any of the Samsung ecosystem helper apps like the Store or Bixby.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unlocked phones still have carrier bloat if you got them from a carrier

[–] Mindlight 3 points 1 year ago

Not a thing in Sweden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My wife's phone does this as well (Japan)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Australian here. Never happened... yet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ooh, it had to be them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same thing here with s21 ultra on tmobile. Just went looking and have a bunch of samsung/tmobile/microsoft stuff built in but that's about it. Have been asked I think once or twice with certain app store updates if I wanted to install game apps but declined them and haven't seen any since.

edit- am US based

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It is probably what they are allowed to do according to the law.

[–] saltesc 1 points 1 year ago

It's illegal where I'm from and I imagine many other places. I assume OP is from the US where the voters tolerate this sort of stuff more.