THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I'm at work and can't watch the video. Why'd they pull him out violently? Was there some struggle beforehand, or did the cop just decide to be an asshole?
and what was the outcome? Was he arrested? Let go?
The guy rolled up his window when the cops were talking to him. Any normal person would have spent the night in jail if they did the same, and then they would be paying to get their car out of impound, and then maybe their license would have been suspended too.
I'm not saying what they did is right, i'm saying cops in this country are assholes. That's what we expect them to be. That's what the policies ask them to be. That's what their bosses want. It's what the elected officials who set the laws and guidelines they must follow want. It's what most very old white people want.
We need real change, we just won't see it in our lifetime. We'd sooner see another dictator trying to conquer the world and committing genocidal acts than do anything to address the police problem here. Nowadays cops are just legalized bullies, just the way the ownership wants.
Hill was being a punk and rolled his window up on them. One of them roid raged out and yoinked him out of the car. I think they figured out who he was (probably thought he was a drug dealer based on him being black and the nice sports car) and gave him his traffic tickets and let him go.
He provided the paperwork they required from him and chose not to continue the conversation. When asked to step out of the car he complied and was thrown to the ground. He is not required to speak to them so why is he a punk?
He did not comply. I watched the video and you're full of shit that he complied about stepping out of the vehicle. He also kept his car running instead of shutting the engine off.
What legal command didn't he comply with to get put in handcuffs? Is he legally required to turn his car off? Did the officers ask him to turn his car off?
He hands the officer his paperwork at 0:10 closes his window at 0:26 in the video and opens the car window at 0:43 his door is opened at 0:56 he's on the ground at 1:02. It took the police 62 second to conduct the stop assess that he's a threat and take him to the ground. I know he's fast on the field but come on lol