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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

If a disabled person used a cart all through the store, and to their car, their disability should therefore not impede their ability to return the cart.

If someone is using the mobility scooter, that's a different story.

Edit for clarity, if it does impede the ability, it does. That's the end of the story, and the meme.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

If you need to use the scooter, then you're not using a cart. You just have to be able to hobble between the store itself and your car. And sometimes you can hand it to someone to drive back to the store.

As someone who has recently needed it for several very different temporary medical issues in the past 4 or so years (better now tho- it's been a very weird time for me lol), I've seen that a lot of randos in the parking lot will even enjoy riding it back for you lol. Kids love it.

[–] TheSalarian 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I am pro-"cart abandoners deserve the gulag", but we've also gotta recognize that some disabled people may need the cart for balance, and if they return it, they now have to walk across the parking lot without that crutch. Maybe the right answer is to put cart returns next to disabled spots?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think it's fair to assume the target of this meme is not that scenario.

Edit also generally agree

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

So they were able to get to the cart station before their shopping unassisted, but are unable to return the cart because the walk back is unassisted?

I don't buy it.

[–] Warl0k3 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So what actual disabled people do is just to talk to the cashier, who will say "oh let me flag down one of the Noble Cart Lads" or "oh just leave it, we'll have someone out in a couple minutes anyways". It's standard to have someone on staff that helps mobility impared (or otherwise disabled) people load their car. If a place has mobility scooters, they absolutely have one of these people too.

What you're doing here is advocating for accommodation on a largely solved problem, without just asking the people you're advocating for about the problem, and trying to signal your virtue while doing it. Stop it.

(The reason for no cart returns next to disabled spaces is that many people will just sorta fling their carts at the returns, creating a whole lot of obstacles right where you least want them.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

If only there was a device they could use to place their walking aid in (assuming they don't need a full on walker) to carry it while their hands are full of shopping cart

If my friend with a CASTED LEG could manage to return their cart then it'd take a disability that means you probably shouldn't be out and about on your own to not return it

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you know what you're talking about. Disabilities are really diverse and the US at least has shit healthcare. I can totally imagine someone using the last of their strength or energy to get back into their car. I wish everyone returned their carts, too, but I have empathy for people who just hit the end of their rope.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously every disability is different. It's a meme, I'm not writing comprehensive policy here

Edit the point is if you normally navigate the grocery errand, make it to your car without issue, are not incapable of returning the cart, but choose.to.just ditch it because you are lazy, then the meme is talking about you.

If you aren't able to move the cart any further, ideally park near the return spot, or tell the staff, or get the accomodations you need.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a meme, I'm not writing comprehensive policy here

I'm responding to your comment, not the post. This part:

If a disabled person ... their disability should therefore ....

You really can't make generalizations about disabilities like this.

Lots of people think disabilities are visible and easy to categorize. They're not, and this attitude leads to scenarios like random people harassing actually disabled people for using a handicapped parking spot.

My point is, like, mind your own business and don't make judgy proclamations about what disabled people can do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Return your cart if you can. Don't if you can't.

It's simple shit.

If you can't, the meme isn't about you.

It is however reasonable to suggest a journey that is 99% over and has been completed successfully, can be completed to 100%.

But if not, refer to the beginning.

That's it.

Edit if you leave it anywhere because you are lazy, not incapable, then the meme is about you.

You didn't quote or seemingly read that line.