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Colin Gray, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children, the GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) said.

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[–] Maggoty 82 points 2 months ago (3 children)

According to CNN the Christmas gift timeline is significant because this was after police had talked to the parents about the kid making online threats to do a school shooting.

They knew and they gave him a gun anyway.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not that the police helped the matter in any way. They excused the guns in the house and told the dad to "keep him away from the video games" like we're back in the damn 80s again.

[–] Maggoty 4 points 2 months ago

They didn't but the parents still have a duty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Because never listen to a cop, that advice sure as shit isn't helping now that the DA has come knocking

[–] die444die 27 points 2 months ago

Just to be clear, it’s only the father. The mother didn’t have custody is my understanding.

[–] lennybird 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Devil's advocate here and please inform me if I'm missing something here, but:

  • If agents visited and could do literally nothing about the kid saying these things, then walked away.

  • And no actual legal restrictions were placed upon the father or son...

  • ... How is the father culpable for that which even police could not address?

Doesn't this mean the law needs changed so that preventative action can occur instead of looking for a scapegoat?

That is: If this was such a red flag on hindsight, then why the fuck wasn't it a red flag then and why aren't the police who ultimately did nothing being arrested for homicide?

Speaking as someone who has no problem advocating for a national firearm ban along other measures, this feels like scapegoating without actually addressing the core reasons why this shit happens in the first place.

[–] Serinus 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was the reddest of flags. Georgia does not have laws that allow them to take action for red flags.

The kid didn't even beat his wife, which is usually the accepted standard if they did have red flag laws.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

To play along: this is what a red flag law is for, in theory.

Stuff is happening, the guns should be removed until stuff isn't happening

[–] Maggoty 1 points 2 months ago

There's enough handcuffs to go around. The US isn't in short supply there.