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Donald Trump’s running mate, JD Vance, said in the wake of the deadly school shooting in Georgia that the massacres are sadly a “fact of life” and offered ways to fortify schools to make them safer against gun violence.

Kamala Harris put out a statement with Vance’s comments and called for “action to keep our children safe and keep guns out of the hands of criminals.”

And it appeared to strike a nerve with team Trump that she used Vance’s comments against them.

“Kamala’s interns just released a statement pushing FAKE NEWS,” Trump War Room posted to X with its more than 2 million followers. “Watch the full video and you’ll clearly see that JD Vance does not say what they claim he said. These morons do nothing but lie every single day.”

Except Harris’ campaign shared the same video.

Here’s what Vance had to say:

“I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” he said. “But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets. And we have got to bolster security at our schools. We’ve got to bolster security so if a psycho wants to walk through the front door and kill a bunch of children they’re not able.”

Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”

All of that was in what Harris’ campaign shared with her joint statement on the shooting with running mate Tim Walz. Vance said what team Trump said Vance didn’t say and accused the Harris campaign of distorting.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Vance said he doesn’t like the idea of his own kids going to a school with hardened security, “but that’s increasingly the reality that we live in.”

Only in America. Weird that 'reality' ignores all other first world nations.

[–] repungnant_canary 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

all other

Are you trying to imply the US is a first world country? /s

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The definition of a first world country includes being a "stable democracy".

If you ask Americans how likely they believe attempts at election fraud will happen in the 2024 election I would be shocked if less than 80% said "very likely". That is not a stable democracy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you ask Americans how likely they believe attempts at election fraud will happen in the 2024 election I would be shocked if less than 80% said “very likely”. That is not a stable democracy.

to be clear, most of the people that are going to say that are insane MAGA people that think biden is going to try and steal it...

The rest are non trumpers who think trump is going to steal it so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's exactly my point. Pretty much everyone in the country believes "If who I vote for doesn't win it will be because of election fraud." If the citizens do not trust their country's democratic process then it's not a First World Country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

yeah this is definitely the biggest problem right now.

I've been predicting for a little while that if people don't "change how they view the government in the next 5-10 years we won't have a government at all in 10-20 years"

[–] El_guapazo 15 points 1 month ago

His kids are not in public school or in any sort of danger from a school shooter. Else he'd actually do something about it

[–] rayyy 5 points 1 month ago

In the US the oligarchs worry about models of profitability like keeping wages dirt low, profits sky high and workers at each other's throats rather than proven models of success like universal health care and sensible gun control employed by Europe and first world countries worldwide..