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[–] slazer2au 35 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Well, what other word do you use to teach a kid the alphabet? Xenophoe? Xenomorph?

[–] Zachariah 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

xenophobe

That way you can teach the concepts of bigotry and tolerance from a young age.

[–] Siethron 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't know, a 5 year old might think that's a cool word and say they want to be xenophobe when they grow up.

[–] Zachariah 10 points 3 months ago

See, this way we can spot them earlier. Way too many of them go on to live their dream—when they could have had their course adjusted at the beginning.

[–] idunnololz 6 points 3 months ago

Ok sure but I grew up in the 90s and ended up becoming a xylophone and Im not sure that's any better.

[–] aeronmelon 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Xolo - hairless Mexican dog

Xenops - small bird

(I don’t use X-Ray because saying the letter X doesn’t make either of the letter’s major phonetic sounds.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

saying the letter X doesn’t make either of the letter’s major phonetic sounds

Excuse me?

[–] aeronmelon 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

X, spoken as a letter = ecks

Hard phonetic sound = zz, same as the letter Z (almost always at the beginning of a word. Xylophone)

Soft phonetic sound = ksk (never at the beginning of a word. Box, oxen)

(disclaimer: American English, ymmv.)

[–] oyfrog 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

By this definition, Xolo wouldn't fit because the x in Xolo is somewhere between sh- and ch-. It's a Nahuatl word and many (if not all) Xs are sh-/ch-.

Sorry for being pedantic.

[–] aeronmelon 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don’t be sorry, you’re not pedantic enough.

The Nahuatl word Xoloitzcuintle is something the vast majority of English-speaking Americans can’t read, let alone spell or pronounce correctly. So the more digestible word Xolo was adopted to identify Mexican hairless dogs (hard X, hard O, L, hard O).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

As an English speaking American I can confirm. I started pronouncing it in my head then kinda gave up cus I haven’t had enough coffee yet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

X, spoken as a letter ecks

Or ex

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No, i think i get it but difficult to explain.

Say X, X, X in a row

Then say

Xylo , Xen, Xono

The Raw letter has different phonet-x to how it’s often applied.

When were talking about teaching kids the alphabet we need to train both individual and applied letters

I do realize that this might be very cultural and language dependent but i am pretty sure we’re talking plain english.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

When were talking about teaching kids the alphabet we need to train both individual and applied letters

This is only slightly related but I once met a young (USAmerican) adult who thought the stripy horse animal's name was pronounced zed-bra in British English and it was really hard to convince her otherwise. In her mind zebra was strongly connected to Z-bra, so of course if someone was to pronounce the letter "zed" it would turn into "zed-bra" and not just into "zeh-bra".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

X-ray? X, Professor? Xerox?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Xenon? Xylem? Xenobiology? Xanthoma? Xylocarp? Xiphoid? Xerosis? Xyster? The scrabble favorites xi and xu?

There's loads of cool words that begin with x

[–] TheTechnician27 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Xylophone: fun, colorful, easy for a kid to remember as a cute little instrument

Xenon: An inert gas used in... MRI scans, I think?

X-ray is probably the only other 'X' word with more real-world representation than xylophone, and as pointed out above, that's not quite representative of how the letter is used phonetically in the rest of the language.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Xylem is a major component of almost all the plants you see. I'm not sure how much more real-world representation you can get...

[–] TheTechnician27 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

By "real-world representation", I mean "how often the word is actually used in the real world." There are hundreds of trillions of neutrinos passing through you all the time, but I'd still think "nest" is a better word for kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It's rarely used phonetically the same as xylophone. Usually it makes the [ks] sound, it only ever makes the [z] sound at the beginning of words. X-ray is actually much more in line with the typical phonetic representation in English.

[–] GraniteM 4 points 3 months ago
[–] rovingnothing29 4 points 3 months ago

Xenomorph, gotta teach them young that sometimes it's best to just nuke the whole thing from orbit.

[–] Johnmannesca 1 points 2 months ago

The name Xavier works because it teaches them to pronounce the letter correctly