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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'll admit I was mistaken given your comment was sandwiched between two people suggesting otherwise and given your suggestion that anyone tired of listening to those people try to discourage voting for Harris is pro-genocide. You may not be one of them, but you walk a very similar walk here, so I wouldn't be so surprised by the confusion.

[–] Ensign_Crab 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Consider for a moment that some of the others that you've written off might not be trying to discourage people from voting for Harris but might actually be upset about genocide.

You do understand that there are people in the world who genuinely don't like genocide without ulterior motives, right? That it's actually possible to find genocide objectionable?

Because it sure fucking seems like centrists on lemmy don't want to hear anything that isn't glowing praise in the face of the news that Harris will continue supporting genocide to the same degree that Biden has.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude this all started because top comment knew this post was gonna be full of people discouraging voting for Harris, and then you jumped in and accused people of being pro-genocide for it. This is what I mean when I said you walk a similar walk. Anyone who disagrees with your perfect view of the world MUST be an enemy who directly wants genocide.

None of us like genocide. We're just tired of it being used to trash the candidate who's objectively better on the topic, shitty as that may be. I, at least, don't care if some posts about her are negative, but I'm real fucking tired of people trying to pretend that her failings here mean getting the objectively worse Trump elected on purpose or on accident is somehow a coherent idea, much less a good one.

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 2 months ago

Anyone who disagrees with your perfect view of the world MUST be an enemy who directly wants genocide.

And anyone who criticizes any Democrat's support for genocide gets a fucking earful of "you want Trump to win" accusations.

None of us like genocide.

Ha. I wish we could link to specific modlog entries.

We’re just tired of it being used to trash the candidate who’s objectively better on the topic, shitty as that may be.

Objectively less bad. Let's not pretend she's good on the topic in any way.

I’m real fucking tired of people trying to pretend that her failings here mean getting the objectively worse Trump elected on purpose or on accident is somehow a coherent idea, much less a good one.

And I'm tired of the constant insinuations that anyone who thinks that no Democrat should be supporting genocide must be a trumper.

Neither fucking party should be supporting genocide. This isn't perfect-world-everyone-gets-a-pony-and-a-blowjob-yes-even-the-women purity. This is the absolute bare minimum of what should be acceptable. It's the most disgusting shit ever to see the "good" party willing to be complicit in the eradication of a people, and to be met with gross hostility from your own party for daring to call it wrong.

I wonder who the next entry on Netanyahu's "then they came for" list is. Because one thing about genocide, it doesn't end unless it's stopped. It doesn't end when it runs out of victims in one group. The genocidal stay in power by lying to the people that if they just get rid of those that they designate to be the cause of all the world's ills, all their problems will go away. So when the victims are dead and the problems remain, they don't admit they're wrong; they're politicians, after all. They just find a new scapegoat for all the world's ills and continue as before. Ultimately everyone's on that list except the genocidal maniac at the top.